Flour, Bread and Cooking

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Afraid I simply cannot agree about gas hobs. With induction, you can heat at a lower setting than a gas hob even at its lowest setting. And, like gas, turn it up to full instantly.

Only a very few things are really more difficult/impossible - like charring the skin of a pepper.

My point about sticking was in respect of the way gas hobs heat the base and sides of a pan. Thus any contents, especially if it is gently simmering, forms a ring just above its surface. That ring firms up, hardens, even burns with longer cooking making it worse.

Also, even with decent pan bases, the dead centre of a pan tends to be cooler and the contents require more careful and dedicated stirring.

And, as already mentioned, hot handles are largely a thing of the past.

And cleaning is massively quicker and easier. You don't tend to have a very hot surface or the complexities of gas burners and the pan stands.

If cooking something inherently splashy and prone to problems, like jam or marmalade, you can stick a sheet of baking paper under the pan.

AMC products readily available still!

There are digital compass apps, I don't khow how many discern the internal digital compass from the AGPS+GPS calculation for direction - I've not tried, nor am recommending this example:

 
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guerney

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Afraid I simply cannot agree about gas hobs. With induction, you can heat at a lower setting than a gas hob even at its lowest setting. And, like gas, turn it up to full instantly.

Only a very few things are really more difficult/impossible - like charring the skin of a pepper.

My point about sticking was in respect of the way gas hobs heat the base and sides of a pan. Thus any contents, especially if it is gently simmering, forms a ring just above its surface. That ring firms up, hardens, even burns with longer cooking making it worse.

Also, even with decent pan bases, the dead centre of a pan tends to be cooler and the contents require more careful and dedicated stirring.

And, as already mentioned, hot handles are largely a thing of the past.

And cleaning is massively quicker and easier. You don't tend to have a very hot surface or the complexities of gas burners and the pan stands.

If cooking something inherently splashy and prone to problems, like jam or marmalade, you can stick a sheet of baking paper under the pan.

AMC products readily available still!

I'm not encouraging you to swap your induction for a halogen, but this is an interesting read:

"Studies have shown that most modern induction cooktops emit levels of EMF radiation that exceed the maximum exposure limits set by the ICNIRP


 

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@oyster - someone I know suffers from this:


... he has to have blood siphoned off, every so often by a state sanctioned NHS vampire, lest iron levels become too high. It took years for him to be properly diagnosed.
 

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I'm not encouraging you to swap your induction for a halogen, but this is an interesting read:

"Studies have shown that most modern induction cooktops emit levels of EMF radiation that exceed the maximum exposure limits set by the ICNIRP


That was more than twenty years ago - I'd hope that there was something more recent than that!

I'd take it a lot more seriously if I were a chef of some sort using high power induction plates for hours every day. Most especially, if they needed continuous stirring, flipping, etc.

And have you actually considered how much EMF is emitted by a halogen hob?

Remember, EMF covers a huge range of frequencies.
 
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Bread dough in banetton.
Banetton upside down on peel.
Banetton removed.
On peel after bake.
Next loaf on baking stone on oven.
Close-up of slice.
:p

You're a Bread Whisperer! I knew it!
 
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They do look nice.
The restaurant chef's recipe called for the addition of soaked lentils, uncooked & mashed (couldn't be bothered), for extra crunch. Also an egg (I've run out), for cohesiveness. This book recommends rice flour for crunchiness, no mention of eggs:

 
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That was more than twenty years ago - I'd hope that there was something more recent than that!

I'd take it a lot more seriously if I were a chef of some sort using high power induction plates for hours every day. Most especially, if they needed continuous stirring, flipping, etc.

And have you actually considered how much EMF is emitted by a halogen hob?

Remember, EMF covers a huge range of frequencies.
It was so much easier to get away with experimenting on soldiers to destruction with radiation of all kinds in the old days - it's how they determined dangerous levels of SAR (not mentioned below):

 

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Bread dough in banetton.
Banetton upside down on peel.
Banetton removed.
On peel after bake.
Next loaf on baking stone on oven.
Close-up of slice.
I juiced half a pumpkin with the intention of baking some very orange bread, but it smelled so nice that I drank it instead. Hope I don't die or require an A&E hospital bed. Unlikely. Juicing really does make large volumes of veg vanish in a flash. Must get a more efficient juicer, yielding larger quantinties of juice... I'll bake some orange pumpkin bread some other time.
 
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BEHOLD! My Kefir fermented pumpkin, broccoli and onion bhajis! Added cornflour, red lentils ground in a coffee grinder then soaked, mixed in, and an egg. Fermenting makes them airy.

Next up, Kefir cheese!


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I made too many bhajis yesterday... but they came in handy for breakfast. Great with a Kefir nan bread ;)


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That was more than twenty years ago - I'd hope that there was something more recent than that!

I'd take it a lot more seriously if I were a chef of some sort using high power induction plates for hours every day. Most especially, if they needed continuous stirring, flipping, etc.

And have you actually considered how much EMF is emitted by a halogen hob?

Remember, EMF covers a huge range of frequencies.
But in general, in such situations, it is better not to take the risk and just call a professional chef to cook. That's what we did when we got together as a group. I found and hire a private chef in London without too much trouble. It was well done, I did not even expect that they would do it that way. So if you are interested you can have a look here and read everything in detail. I hope that I was able to help and you will be useful. Good luck.
The radiation there is enormous, in fact.
 
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You don't need to burn much wood to stir-fry, which was the point.
 
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I like to make soft moist Banana bread with my older manky nana's, manky to me is any that have the strong over ripe aroma or are too Yellow.
 

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Crunchy peanut butter currant buns. I don't know why either. Decided out of the blue to combine ingredients I had lying around. Miraculously, they were delicious.

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I like to make soft moist Banana bread with my older manky nana's, manky to me is any that have the strong over ripe aroma or are too Yellow.
 

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I like to make soft moist Banana bread with my older manky nana's, manky to me is any that have the strong over ripe aroma or are too Yellow.
I'd deep fry them in a cornflour honey egg batter. Served with honey, if you can find any.
 

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I like to make soft moist Banana bread with my older manky nana's, manky to me is any that have the strong over ripe aroma or are too Yellow.
If you have one of those electric coffee grinders, oats, an apple, sultanas, honey and baking powder, you can bake fruity oatballs - no additional water needed. Add cocoa powder and flatten for chocolate oatcakes.


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If you have one of those electric coffee grinders, oats, an apple, sultanas, honey and baking powder, you can bake fruity oatballs - no additional water needed. Add cocoa powder and flatten for chocolate oatcakes.


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Without added sugar (important for pompholyx), sounds great, will give it a go as a coronation treat while rehearsing my version of the oath of allegiance..
 
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