Ezee Torq stolen in Portsmouth City Centre

fishingpaul

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Sep 24, 2007
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Wake up call to all of us,i used to use two locks on my bike it,i was worried about theft at first but lately i have been complacent and only used one lock,this is just pure lazyness on my part to save a few seconds unlocking,in reality a thief will even steal an unlocked wheel or saddle if it is an easy steal.
 

daniel.weck

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Aug 8, 2009
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I have been recommending the Abus Granit 54 X-Plus 30cm D-Lock, see here: http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/4830-any-bike-lock-recommendations.html#post61032

Manufacturer page: ABUS | The good feeling of security

50 GBP (inc. delivery) 23cm model here: Abus Granit 54 X-Plus 160/230 Texkf Sold Secure Gold 2009 - £49.99 - SBR Sports or here: Abus GRANIT 54 XPLUS 230 EAZYKF 2010 - Black 230mm

I need to purchase a second lock now that I own a second e-bike. I would probably get the same again (50-60 GBP), unless there are better alternatives.
Well, I've now purchased the 23cm model with the new EazyKF mount (I already have the 30cm model with the TexKF mount).

This pair will be quite a versatile kit for locking our bikes together (my wife's and mine). I will probably use the shorter lock for my Brompton now, as the longer one will accommodate the much wider rear frame triangle on the iZip Via Mezza Enlightened.

I use cheap "twisty" wire cables for locking the saddles in place, they're easy to cut but act as thief-deterrent nonetheless.

As for the batteries, I would not leave them on the bike for anything more than 15 minutes...but then it highly depends on the location :(

It is worth noting that I lock my bikes at home. Call me paranoid, but it only takes a couple of minutes and puts my mind at rest. :p

Cheers, Dan
 
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Mussels

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I will probably use the shorter lock for my Brompton now, as the longer one will accommodate the much wider rear frame triangle on the iZip Via Mezza Enlightened.
Good idea as D locks with spare room (enough to fit an orange apparently) can be forced open with a bottle jack.
 

NRG

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Oct 6, 2009
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That's a good solution Dan. Luckily I don't have to leave my bike anywhere iffy for too long. I'm using a thick Abus loop n lock cable from SJS but I think I'll double up with a 2m x 12mm Squire cable and CEN rated padlock to keep the wheels and saddle a little more secure... Seems to me though that if the 'serious' thieves want your bike they will take it no matter how good the security...
 

Barnowl

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Sep 18, 2008
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Nick just seen this thread. I'm appalled. The thieving miserable low life. I hope you get your bike back as soon as possible.
 

themutiny

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Feb 26, 2009
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Hi

If anyone's interested, the lock was one of these.

Magnum Plus Shackle Bike Lock from Halfords Price £39.99

This blurb made me laugh ( in a purely ironic way)

"Solid lock, not much else you could do to secure your bike other than have a security guard stand next to it."

Next time I'll take the security guard

As for a picture, I guess it looked like the attached, only dirtier, no discernible ezee branding (fell off years ago) and Marathon plus tyres
 

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Mussels

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Hi

If anyone's interested, the lock was one of these.

Magnum Plus Shackle Bike Lock from Halfords Price £39.99

This blurb made me laugh ( in a purely ironic way)

"Solid lock, not much else you could do to secure your bike other than have a security guard stand next to it."

Next time I'll take the security guard

As for a picture, I guess it looked like the attached, only dirtier, no discernible ezee branding (fell off years ago) and Marathon plus tyres
For anyone who thinks different types of locks require different tools, not necessarily. This lock is 13mm thick and can be cut quickly with hand bolt croppers, if you fit an equivalent chain then it can be cut with the same croppers. Forget cable locks as they are all pretty poor. Good quality chains and D locks need to be at least 16mm to escape manual bolt croppers, cheap badly made ones look as good but are easy to crop. Any chain that advertises itself as through hardened is poor as it can be shattered.
If I'm parking in the same place every day for long periods then I'll use an 18mm D lock but I still carry a cable lock for impromptu short stops. I really need to upgrade that a bit but find something that is practical to carry on the bike, the 18mm lock was so heavy it damaged my frame so after the frame was replaced I stopped taking it everywhere.

Don't forget 1 -Locks are only as good as the person fitting them. I once missed the railings :eek: and only locked the rear wheel to the frame, that one time was enough for someone to try and pinch it as it had been moved and the chain had come off.

Don't forget 2 - Sold secure etc are not to be relied on at all, their tests aren't worth the paper they are written on.
 
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eddieo

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Jul 7, 2008
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Mussels, what 18mm lock do you use?
 

jerrysimon

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I have seen some info showing how easy it is to crack some of the more expensive locks.

Its quite shocking :eek:

Regards

Jerry
 
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monster

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what about some kind of tracking device hidden in the battery somewhere? this was discussed on endless-sphere a while ago but i don't think any one has done anything about it. i will try out one of those alarms i think.
 

Mussels

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what about some kind of tracking device hidden in the battery somewhere? this was discussed on endless-sphere a while ago but i don't think any one has done anything about it. i will try out one of those alarms i think.
Tracking systems are available with bikes and have been used on motorbikes for some time. The problem is the police don't have the scanners available or they just don't scan the bikes.
 

monster

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May 13, 2009
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there are tracking devices on ebay where you text them from you phone when you bike gets stolen. the device then uses GPS to find its location and texts back this information to your phone. you can then type that information into your satnav and it will lead you to your bike. i'm gonna buy one now they aren't expensive.
 

Mussels

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there are tracking devices on ebay where you text them from you phone when you bike gets stolen. the device then uses GPS to find its location and texts back this information to your phone. you can then type that information into your satnav and it will lead you to your bike. i'm gonna buy one now they aren't expensive.
I'm interested but sceptical, the unit needs to be well hidden but still get a good signal from satellites and phone masts. It also has to be easy to check and change the battery without being easy for a thief to rip off.
 

monster

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May 13, 2009
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well i'm going to get one and stick it inside my steel battery box and connect it to the battery. hopefully it will still get gps and phone signal?

this post has prompted me to check the security on my own bike. i realised that because its a full suspension bike, the rear suspension splits the bike into two halves. if you only lock half, the other half could still be stolen. i will lock the expensive half from now on.
 

Vikki

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Jan 12, 2009
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Stick a radio transceiver in any kind of metal box and you kiss goodbye to the signals getting in and out (unless you use an external aerial).

Interesting idea, though. Assuming you had a receiver you could hunt it down yourself if it hasn't moved to far out of the area. Hmmmm, thinking..... directional, triangulating.... hmmmm, Jerry during the war and spies radios....

Mind you, I think home-made kit blatting out a signal of ten mile radius might be frowned on by plod, d'oh, scratch that then. Purpose made is a good idea though.

Best regards.

Vikki.
 

monster

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May 13, 2009
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i don't think mobile phone signals are the same as radio signals. maybe gps signals are radio signals? i can usually get phone signal everywhere even inside metal boxes (cars). gps service is much weaker so it might not work in the battery box.

maybe we could use the metal box or bike frame as the aerial? i'll see if the device supports plug-in aerials.
 

Mussels

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i don't think mobile phone signals are the same as radio signals. maybe gps signals are radio signals? i can usually get phone signal everywhere even inside metal boxes (cars). gps service is much weaker so it might not work in the battery box.

maybe we could use the metal box or bike frame as the aerial? i'll see if the device supports plug-in aerials.
GPS and the phone use radio signals at different frequencies, I don't know if they will work inside your metal box but I doubt they will work well. I remember seeing something designed for pushbikes and it slotted into the seat tube.
 

HarryB

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Judging by the inside of an Ezee battery there is not much space to put any extra boxes in, however small. Maybe the best solution would be to try and disguise it as part of the ebikes electronic components - one advantage of having an ebike. Otherwise directly under the seat but it would need a power source as well.
 

Marky T

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what about some kind of tracking device hidden in the battery somewhere? this was discussed on endless-sphere a while ago but i don't think any one has done anything about it. i will try out one of those alarms i think.
Hi all,

The ultimate anti low life device is probably years away, in the meantime we'll have to do what we can to protect our treasured belongings.
I fitted a IR remote alarm to my E-bike and also use an alarmed cable lock, I know the cable locks are a bit flimsy but the alarms certainly make some noise especially the remote one, both are vibration sensitive. See attachment, note remote on keyring.
 

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