eZee Torq 45 'S' Class

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Cyclezee

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For those with a need for speed and private land to ride on, eZee have a 28 mph, 45 Km/h 'S' class which is popular in Germany.*

The eZee Torq 45 is available to order with several options, the basic specification is as follows:

MotoreZee 500 watt / 350 rpm
Top speed45 kmph / 28 mph
Battery type Wh37v 14 Ah 10s 7p (2200 mAh, 5C Samsung cells ) 518Wh
Consumption21 Wh / mile at full power
Max range30 miles
Battery option37V 20Ah (2200 mAh , 5 C samsung cells ) 740 Wh
Max Range43 miles
Bicycle weight23 kgs
Battery weight3.8 kgs
BrakesHygia hydraulic brakes with electric cut off / Hall sensor
180 mm disc rotor
GearShimano Alfine 8 - 306 %
OptionNuVinci N360 360 % stepless variable
LighteZee L 1000 : 1000 Lumens
Operation modeMultiple options : ebike + pedelec, pedelec with 6 kmph ebike,
ebike, cruise . Motion sensor : 12 poles and 2 Halls
OptionPedelec with Thun torque sensor
5 power level selection or Cycle Analyst
Price from £2200 / €2800

*Cyclezee will require a disclaimer from anyone from the UK buying this model stating that it will only be used on private land.
 
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indalo

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Thank you for drawing attention to yet another machine which cannot be classified as an ebike in this country. I guess ethics always takes second place to any potential for profit.

Indalo
 

eddieo

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and to think for many a year John was an outstanding contributer on here...Now have to file him away with all the other pond life..

its a lack of proper moderation on here that lets this happen, and like you say avarice, as any opportunity to make money no matter what the ethics comes first.....
 

funkylyn

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Sanctimonious p***** comes to mind.......

Sounds like an interesting bike for private land john...pity i dont have any :)

Lynda :)
 

flecc

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There really are people who have more than adequate access to private land. For example those people often use unregistered quad bikes on their lands and private roads and tracks, and their lucky kids also freely enjoy such vehicles from an early age. Such people are sometimes the very wealthy who own estates of hundreds and even thousands of hectares, or farmers of sometimes many hundreds of hectares. Even the average person can sometimes benefit, for well over a decade my brother and I had free access to the extensive Moigne Combe estate lands, roads and tracks in Dorset. As a range officer for the army's lands in Yorkshire, my nephew Mark has similar unrestricted benefits.

Therefore there is a legitimate market for non-road legal vehicles. Yes it's small, but so is the whole e-bike market in the UK, and John has made it clear that his offering is special order only, so clearly not mass marketing as some are blatantly doing.
 
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Cyclezee

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Hi Lynda,

I would just like to clarify that Cyclezee does not stock this model, it is not even listed on our website.

I would be surprised if we get a single order for this model from the UK.

We have a wide range of legal bikes available from stock.

Finally, I resent certain offensive remarks and comments from other posters in this thread suggesting that I am unethical and only interested in money. I am an electric bike enthusiast and have never advocated the illegal use of electric bikes.

This is probably a waste of keystrokes, but I think an apology would be in order.
 
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Cyclezee

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There really are people who have more than adequate access to private land. For example those people often use unregistered quad bikes on their lands and private roads and tracks, and their lucky kids also freely enjoy such vehicles from an early age. Such people are sometimes the very wealthy who own estates of hundreds and even thousands of hectares, or farmers of sometimes many hundreds of hectares. Even the average person can sometimes benefit, for well over a decade my brother and I had free access to the extensive Moigne Combe estate lands, roads and tracks in Dorset. As a range officer for the army's lands in Yorkshire, my nephew Mark has similar unrestricted benefits.

Therefore there is a legitimate market for non-road legal vehicles. Yes it's small, but so is the whole e-bike market in the UK, and John has made it clear that his offering is special order only, so clearly not mass marketing as some are blatantly doing.
Thank you for your comments Tony, as always a gentleman and voice of reason.
 

Scimitar

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and to think for many a year John was an outstanding contributer on here...Now have to file him away with all the other pond life..

its a lack of proper moderation on here that lets this happen, and like you say avarice, as any opportunity to make money no matter what the ethics comes first.....
No need for that at all. Please conduct yourself with a modicum of decorum.
 

muckymits

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Well John if you wanted to poke the hornets nest you should of used a longer stick.

The person who started all of this should of known better, it makes BEBA look bad.
 

amigafan2003

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I would just like to clarify that Cyclezee does not stock this model, it is not even listed on our website.

I would be surprised if we get a single order for this model from the UK.

We have a wide range of legal bikes available from stock.

Finally, I resent certain offensive remarks and comments from other posters in this thread suggesting that I am unethical and only interested in money. I am an electric bike enthusiast and have never advocated the illegal use of electric bikes.

This is probably a waste of keystrokes, but I think an apology would be in order.
+1.

On the original bike - I'm glad there is a CHOICE in the market. Sounds like we've a few to many closet socialist authoritarians on here who - and that's coming from a staunch trade unionist!
 

Morgann

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Why, if I had access to private land, would I want to pedal round it? Since I wouldn't need a licence or registration or tax etc, I might as well get something with an exhaust.
 

flecc

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Why, if I had access to private land, would I want to pedal round it? Since I wouldn't need a licence or registration or tax etc, I might as well get something with an exhaust.
Keeping fit without extreme effort would be one good reason. Another is the enjoyment of off-road cycling experience with enough low speed assist power to make it pleasant. Many with private land also have wildlife and environmental interests and don't want to pollute their land with noise and unnecessary exhausts fumes. Our native orchids, lichen and many of our funghi are extremely sensitive to pollution, even the slightest amounts sometimes killing them.
 

amigafan2003

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Why, if I had access to private land, would I want to pedal round it? Since I wouldn't need a licence or registration or tax etc, I might as well get something with an exhaust.
I wouldn't want a noisy, heavy, smelly machine on my nice, quiet estate when visiting the trout lakes, pheasant populated heather etc :)
 

Scimitar

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Why, if I had access to private land, would I want to pedal round it? Since I wouldn't need a licence or registration or tax etc, I might as well get something with an exhaust.
Total pita starting up and leaving fumes everywhere. Fwiw, I know a couple of people with small estates and an electric bicycle would suit them perfectly. They have mentioned that the overall costs and maintenance of a Landy or similar just to run around from one field to another eyeballing stuff is pointless but a normal bicycle is a bit energetic, especially as they're getting on a bit, now.
So, leccy bikes in the summer - powerful ones, too.
 

Morgann

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Doesn't appear likely to be a huge sector of the market. If I want a non polluting vehicle to wander around my ancestral estates, I'll probably look more towards things that can multitask, like, for instance, an electric gardeners pickup or electric quad.

Pretty sure that Ebike sellers aren't expecting to sell their overclocked road bikes to the landed gentry.
Pretty sure that they don't care where they're ridden once they're sold either.

And if they don't expect them to be ridden on the public roads, why would they require a written promise?
CYA anyone?
 
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flecc

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And if they don't expect them to be ridden on the public roads, why would they require a written promise?
Reasons: To have proof of warning the unaware attracted to such a model that they are illegal on the road. To show that the trader respects the law and does not wish it to be broken. To try to put off those who think of illegal use by making them think about the issues involved.

I doubt profit is in John's mind, since as he's remarked, he'll be surprised to sell one. Even if he did, bringing one in with all that entails is hardly going to make him wealthy, it's just an offered service to anyone who might need it.