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eTim

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 19, 2009
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As a motorbike and ecycling enthusiast I have an interest in this, it's one for the motorbike fans (of which I know there are a few on this forum), OK so it's not really related to ecycles, but in some ways it is, it shows what is happening in the wider market and where the technology might be headed and who the main players might be, it also shows just how fast this sector of the consumer market is growing, retailers take note....

2010 e-Bike Shootout - Motorcycle.com
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
Hi all,

I recently posted this on a Bicycle Victoria (Australia) ebike thread. BV have 40,000 members, with a smattering of nimby cyclists wanting to keep ebikes off their bike paths. Fear, ignorance and prejudice alive and well. I ride a Kawaskii VN-800 v-twin and a Jamis 27 spd 200w 10Ah Li-ion ebike. E-motorycle development gone to the next level, it appears - see following links

26 Aug 2010, 1:47 pm
Percrime wrote: Flagged TTXGP: Electric Motorcycles Race Isle of Man - Isle of Man TT and Street Racing - Motorcycle USA

Percrime - wow! A few techies have been working on ebikes in the backroom and misplaced their steroids!! I liked the specs on this one: The Imperial TTXGP represents one of the entries from a higher education team. Imperial College London is basing their electric design around the Suzuki Hayabusa, not a bad machine to build around. Speed… Claims say the bike will go 0-60 mph in four seconds, with a range of 150 miles (240km) at 40 mph (impressive range for an electric motorcycle). The college website (TTXGP | Imperial TTXGP Electric Racing) lists top speed as 100 mph (160kmh), with weight a hefty 640 lbs (291 kg).

Something on the 2009 Isle of Mann electric motorcycle race result.
(Source: Motorcycle USA Best of 2009 Awards - Motorcycle Industry News - Motorcycle USA. > Innovation Award: TTXGP Electric Racing at IOM.
'And the more hyped teams at this year’s TTXGP were humbled when the AGNI Motors effort, piloted by Ron Barber, pretty well smoked the electric paddock by turning the course at 87.434 mph. Like the first IOM TT (100y ago), many entries did not finish the race'. ... 'The TTXGP flourishing from its Isle of Man exhibition status to a far more robust 2010 schedule, which will include the Isle of Man original along with four races slated for the UK, three for North America and a season finale at Albacete Spain'. I got the impression the Isle of Mann race is 1 lap of a 37mi course.

This must be what several posts were thinking of when they called ebikes motorcycles. No sign of pedals or derailleurs on these muthas, though. The 0 to 60mph in 4 seconds would put your dentures into the back of your throat!

Here's another electric motorcycle 3 bike comparison.
2010 Electric Motorcycle Shootout - Motorcycle.com
Motorcycle.com article: 2010 Electric Motorcycle Shootout Brammo Enertia vs. Native S vs. Zero S
By Jeff Cobb, Aug. 04, 2010.

Would the forum readers who call ebikes 'motorcycles' please study this material carefully, so we can all move on with the ebike discussion.
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
Endless-sphere elec vehicle forum

This forum relates to electric vehicles, and has specific segments on ebikes, elec vehicle technology, elec scooters and motorcycles, large elec vehicles, elec aircraft and water craft, alternative energy, and an online market.

Endless-sphere.com • Index page

I was just put on to this, so haven't read content yet. I was told this is where the action is on ebikes. Perhaps he hadn't seen the Pedalec site, yet.
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
Stealth Bomber e-MTB, Melbourne Australia

A local owner of one of these e-MTBs just sent me this link, saying it's his favourite e-ride.

Stealth Bomber e-MTB: 52kg, 9spd gearbox (not derailleur), 4.5Kw output, 1.5Kw LiFePO4 battery (2hr charge), 7" forks, 6-8 pot brakes, $A7,550, about 40 per year made locally in Melbourne, Australia. Yes, they export.

Stealth Electric Bikes

It looks pretty damn cool.
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
KTM's eSUC 1200w

Bike Europe - News: KTM's Extreme eSUC

Eurobike 2010
KTM's Extreme eSUC

KTM tries to launch a new sports bike class in the electrical segment. The Austrian bike maker calls that class Electric Utility Cycle Sportive (eSUC). The company has created an extreme prototype, called eGnition which is the first eSUC.

The eGnition is equipped with a 1200 Watt ‘HarmonicChainDrive’ motor, developed by Clean Mobile, which delivers a astonishing 150 Nm of torque!

The eGnition is prohibited for road use and is therefore only suitable for offroad users. With this introduction KTM hopes to create a new class for the MTB sport.
 

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daniel.weck

Esteemed Pedelecer
Aug 8, 2009
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Endless-Sphere is well-known amongst e-bike DIY'ers (like myself). The forum is animated by people who know one thing or two about electronics, mostly users who seek for high-power applications. The Pedelec.co.uk forum is slightly less geeky (just slightly ;) ) and the discussions are centered around legal bikes (250W 15mph max) and the associated lifestyle.

Personally, I'm not particularly interested in throttle-only high-power e-bikes (more like mopeds), so I spend more time on Pedelecs.

Cheers ! Dan

pageal said:
This forum relates to electric vehicles, and has specific segments on ebikes, elec vehicle technology, elec scooters and motorcycles, large elec vehicles, elec aircraft and water craft, alternative energy, and an online market.

Endless-sphere.com • Index page

I was just put on to this, so haven't read content yet. I was told this is where the action is on ebikes. Perhaps he hadn't seen the Pedalec site, yet.
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
19
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
GRACE e-bike 1.3Kw German

GRACE e-bike, Nov 19, 2009. Has a boomy video at bottom of URL. German made.

GRACE e-bike boasts F1 technology

(Excerpts) A custom made 1.3Kw brushless electric hub motor powered by 70 lithium-ion battery cells arranged into five stacks connected in series (which fit inside the frames tubing and precision components), GRACE certainly looks the business.

The battery configuration has a range of between 20km (12.5 miles) and 50km (31 miles), depending on how GRACE is used. The 48V city motor is capable of delivering more than the street legal 45kmh (28mph) but is prevented from doing so by the controller. GRACE is also available with a 48V mountain motor which is tuned for power rather than speed, giving a maximum of 30kmh (19mph).

A sport version of GRACE has been produced to show what the vehicle is capable of. It has a 96V motor capable of a 70kmh (44mph) maximum speed but is strictly demonstration only and not available for sale.

Prices start at €5877 (about US$8737).
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
Brammo's Empulse 10.0 streetfighter: 100mph & 100mi

Brammo's second-generation electric motorcycle: the Empulse 10.0 streetfighter (7/10)

URL: Brammo's second-generation electric motorcycle: the Empulse 10.0 streetfighter

'Empulse 10.0 – a slick-looking, hard-hitting fully electric streetfighter with a sustainable top speed over 100mph and a range in excess of 100 miles on a single 2-hour charge. Available to order now, the Empulse more than doubles the Enertia's practicality, while adding a huge whack of fun to the equation. Pricing is a pleasant surprise – the top-spec model will go for US$13,995, but the final cost may be as little as US$7,000 in certain states once federal and state incentives are taken into account'.

Comment on future development potential: 'Personally, I'm looking forward to the gyro-stabilized auto-wheelie button'.

A 2 hr charge for 100 mi range is very nice!
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
eSpire 1.2kW/48V 14spd Rohloff hub 65kmh e-MTB

eSpire – the SUV of electric bikes
October 7, 2010

URL: eSpire – the SUV of electric bikes

The eSpire has a BLDC 1.2kW/48V electric motor that delivers 150 Nm of torque. It’s powered by a removable 820 Wh Li-ion battery, which is good for over 1,500 charges. Like most ebike batteries, it reaches full charge in three hours. Range is around 65 km (40 miles) on battery only, and 90 km (56 miles) using pedal assist.

Street legal is limited to a top speed of 45km/h (28mph) – in some countries, at least, this allows it to qualify as a scooter. The Off-Road version tops out at 65km/h (40mph).

The frame is tubular aluminum, with a polycarb motor housing. Front and rear suspension is handled by Marzocchi shocks, and gearing is taken care of with a Rohloff 14-speed internal hub. The complete vehicle weight is 30 kg (66 lbs).

Cost is 7,000 euro (about US$9,750) and so far only available at stores in Germany. Shown at 2010 Intermot show in Cologne.
 
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Mussels

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jun 17, 2008
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Crowborough
pageal said:
eSpire – the SUV of electric bikes
October 7, 2010

URL: eSpire – the SUV of electric bikes

The eSpire has a BLDC 1.2kW/48V electric motor that delivers 150 Nm of torque. It’s powered by a removable 820 Wh Li-ion battery, which is good for over 1,500 charges. Like most ebike batteries, it reaches full charge in three hours. Range is around 65 km (40 miles) on battery only, and 90 km (56 miles) using pedal assist.

Street legal is limited to a top speed of 45km/h (28mph) – in some countries, at least, this allows it to qualify as a scooter. The Off-Road version tops out at 65km/h (40mph).

The frame is tubular aluminum, with a polycarb motor housing. Front and rear suspension is handled by Marzocchi shocks, and gearing is taken care of with a Rohloff 14-speed internal hub. The complete vehicle weight is 30 kg (66 lbs).

Cost is 7,000 euro (about US$9,750) and so far only available at stores in Germany. Shown at 2010 Intermot show in Cologne.
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I think someone should tell them what the U in SUV stands for.

Apart from that I'm not sure how well power through the chain will work with a Rohloff hub, IIRC you have to stop pedalling to change gear. It doesn't sound like much hassle but I think in practice it will be.
Irrelevant really as it's never going to be legal here.
 
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pageal

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 15, 2008
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Wyndham in Melbourne, Australia
Brammo Enertia Plus, 95kmh, 128km range

Source: Enertia Plus – Brammo takes electric motorcycle to 80 mile range

Brammo has eclipsed the range capability of its pioneering Enertia electric motorcycle with its latest commuter – the Enertia Plus. With its 6.0 kW h lithium ion battery pack the Enertia Plus achieves 80 miles (128 km) on a single charge – twice that of the original model.

147 kg, top speed of more than 60 mph (95 km/h), 40 Nm of torque at @ 0 - 1450 rpm, and peak power of 13kW @ 4500 rpm.

The Enertia Plus is priced at US$8995. Deliveries are slated to begin 2011 with Brammo now taking pre-orders.
 
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geostorm

Esteemed Pedelecer
Mar 7, 2009
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Great when can we book a test ride, mind you half the fun with the old bikes was the exhaust notes of the Triumphs Nortons goldies etc. but the times they are a changin.....
 
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