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Jeremy

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So did mine ;-) But as I'm not a business it didn't qualify for exemption.
In my case the value is such that it won't get charged (I hope).

Having checked the tracking site again I can confirm that the little Tongxin motor was on the flight that Roger discovered. It was checked in at Stansted 16 minutes after the flight landed, was cleared for import 30 minutes later and has now cleared customs and is "in transit" on its way to me.

Pretty remarkable, really, when you stop and think about where this little motor has been already. Shame is destined to spend the rest of its days plodding around wet Wiltshire...............
 

RoadieRoger

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That`s a pretty quick exit from the plane , faster than people from a passenger jet . Lucky little motor to be spending it`s time driving around the roads of Wiltshire .
 

Jeremy

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I was pretty impressed with the speed, too. It was logged in at the sort facility, Stansted, at 18:23, cleared customs at 19:52 and was then marked as in transit.

It's now in Fareham, been there since 04:26 this morning, so only around 30 miles away. My guess is that it should be delivered sometime on Monday.
 

jackhandy

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Great thread:

The next time I get to track a flight like that will be keeping tabs on Santa's annual foray, on NORAD :p
 

Jeremy

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Great thread:

The next time I get to track a flight like that will be keeping tabs on Santa's annual foray, on NORAD :p
I'll admit to loving the NORAD Santa tracking, too! In this case it is for real though, as hopefully I'll get a real present on Monday.
 

RoadieRoger

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Jeremy have you heard the sound of footsteps coming up the path to your front door ? No not the Taxman , the man from FedEx . I`m awaiting a similar knock from the Hermes man delivering my Helicopters . Sadly I don`t know how they got here from China , unlike your motor !
 
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Jeremy

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Jeremy have you heard the sound of footsteps coming up the path to your front door ? No not the Taxman , the man from FedEx . I`m awaitng a similar knock from the Hermes man delivering my Helicopters . Sadly I don`t know how they got here from China , unlike your motor !
Your timing is perfect, as I've literally just this minute finished editing down a couple of photos, as a post script to this thread!

This is the new Tongxin motor unpacked, and those with eagle eyes will spot that it is actually engraved "EN15194"!

Tongxin 2.jpg

And for those who suggested that Fedex might sting me for high charges, perhaps a close look at the label might shed some light on the reason for them not doing so for this sample motor:

Tongxin 1.jpg

The motor looks very similar externally to the old original sensorless Tonxin I bought back in around 2007/8, and seems to be very nicely finished, much better looking than the finish on the Bafang motors I have.

As it's engraved "EN15194" I'm assuming that they are selling these motors to a manufacturer that's putting them in EU approved ebikes. It'd be interesting to find out which one it is, as I've not heard of a Tongxin drive ebike on sale in the UK.
 

GaRRy

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As it's engraved "EN15194" I'm assuming that they are selling these motors to a manufacturer that's putting them in EU approved ebikes. It'd be interesting to find out which one it is, as I've not heard of a Tongxin drive ebike on sale in the UK.
Personally as with bikes with throttles I reckon it just shows further proof how liberal the chinese are being with saying somehting is EN15194 compliant.
 

Jeremy

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Personally as with bikes with throttles I reckon it just shows further proof how liberal the chinese are being with saying somehting is EN15194 compliant.
Very true, based on my personal experience I'd have to say that there are an awful lot of Chinese manufacturers who will claim pretty much anything in order to sell products. I have deep suspicion about the validity of some of the claims made regarding compliance with all sorts of quality standards, having seen some of the blatant breaches of safety regulations first hand and had the tale of the "buy a Type Approval" certificate from a Japanese manufacturer who made the mistake of having a product Type Approved in China on the cheap.

There are reputable test houses in China, I'm sure, but at the budget end of the market there is always going to be the temptation to just cheat and stick a label on regardless.
 

flecc

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As it's engraved "EN15194" I'm assuming that they are selling these motors to a manufacturer that's putting them in EU approved ebikes. It'd be interesting to find out which one it is, as I've not heard of a Tongxin drive ebike on sale in the UK.
Some US Schwinn models use the Tongxin motors and they have been sold here as Schwinn but mostly under the Claud Butler name by Falcon Cycles who own the Claud Butler name. The earliest model was the Schwinn Pacific about four years ago. Some models used the Toshiba SCiB rapid-charge low-capacity battery with the Tongxin's controller set for low power to kep the range reasonable.

Here's a link to the current Claud Butler Glide electric models
 

Jeremy

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Thanks for that, flecc, it explains why this motor is now stamped with the EN approval number. I'm not at all sure why they bother to stamp the motor though, as there is no way a motor on it's own (unless it has an integral controller) can be approved to the regulations. Perhaps they have marked it as a way of distinguishing motors intended for use in EU approved ebikes from those they make that may not.
 

RoadieRoger

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My R/C helicopters have arrived , not so exciting as they came from Peterborough and no doubt left China months ago .
The Chinese aren`t the only ones to possibly put EN numbers on when they shouldn`t . The Indians used to do that with the cast iron manhole covers years ago and put our Foundries out of business .
 

Jeremy

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My R/C helicopters have arrived , not so exciting as they came from Peterborough and no doubt left China months ago .
The Chinese aren`t the only ones to possibly put EN numbers on when they shouldn`t . The Indians used to do that with the cast iron manhole covers years ago and put our Foundries out of business .
Makes you wonder why we bother with standards. As a (relatively) law abiding nation, with a strong tendency to follow even the most trivial of rules, these regulations, although well intended, inevitably seem to always cause us to work at a disadvantage.

I'm reminded of my first visit to Italy some years ago. I was attending a conference and the first morning's drive across town to the academy where it was being held was a nightmare. Every time I stopped at a red light there would be a barrage of car horns, followed by the howl of scooters riding around me and going straight across the junction on red. When I eventually made it I asked my Italian host what the law was in Italy with regard to driving through red traffic lights. He shrugged and said "In Italy we think traffic lights are only for guidance........".

I often think we should consider EU regulations in the same way.