Sorry but no, however please rest assured we are collectively doing all we can to avoid this round of protectionism.Is there any way for customers (as opposed to manufacturers) to get involved in this? My concern would be the effect of anti-circumvention measures on the cost of spares for existing bikes.
I think they target Bafang and Shimano mid drives because the two companies have the technology to win market share.What I don't understand is why these guys are fighting against Chinese imports, when Bosch themselves have their stuff made in China.
it is a pretty futile exercise from the EBMA - in a few years, Bosch may have to go back to making washing machines and fridges.Yes but Shimano are the good guys from Japan not the bad guys from China
They often don't even do that. A few years ago I saw a Bosch fridge in a store that seemed to have trim already peeling off it and looking shoddy. Investigating around the back revealed it was made in China.it is a pretty futile exercise from the EBMA - in a few years, Bosch may have to go back to making washing machines and fridges.
even so, I am still a sucker to German made home appliances.They often don't even do that. A few years ago I saw a Bosch fridge in a store that seemed to have trim already peeling off it and looking shoddy. Investigating around the back revealed it was made in China.
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Miele if you can afford it. Their appliances are designed to last twenty years as opposed to the built-in obsolescence of other makes.even so, I am still a sucker to German made home appliances.
Others can last if treated well. I had a bottom of the range Indesit washing machine that lasted me 27 years, and even then I only replaced it because I couldn't be bothered to replace a pump hose which was still available, so decided to treat myself to a new one. During that 27 years I only replaced the door seal quite late in its life.Miele if you can afford it. Their appliances are designed to last twenty years as opposed to the built-in obsolescence of other makes.
I have it on good authority that they were using this machine to launder concrete paving slabs. This had worked well for 24 years but then one hose developed a minor leak.....seriously.Others can last if treated well. I had a bottom of the range Indesit washing machine that lasted me 27 years, and even then I only replaced it because I couldn't be bothered to replace a pump hose which was still available, so decided to treat myself to a new one. During that 27 years I only replaced the door seal quite late in its life.
For the five years since it went I've been using a cheap Beko without any problems.
I've no idea how good Miele are, but have noted the several times a year that the Miele service van called on a neighbour to repair their washing machine. That doesn't give me confidence, though of course they may be misusing the machine.
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Sarcasm? One's personal experience is as good as any other's whether it relates to Indesit or Miele.I have it on good authority that they were using this machine to launder concrete paving slabs. This had worked well for 24 years but then one hose developed a minor leak.....seriously.
Not sarcasm....self-deprecating humour.........why assume otherwise?Sarcasm? One's personal experience is as good as any other's whether it relates to Indesit or Miele.
Mine doesn't indicate the presence of built in obsolescence.
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Indeed, but I was well aware of how few manufacturers there are from my former connections in the supply chain. The big Italian makers have long been into own brand manufacturing, and I'd be surprised if Turkey's Beko didn't do that too, given their low costs.No matter the multiplicity of brands there are not so many manufacturers it seems
Little did you realise when you replied that I would prove such a cornucopia of knowledge.....am I right?
From the Miele website.Steve Jobs on why he liked Miele washing machines:
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/steve-jobs-on-choosing-a-washe-140953
Nothing about mechanical reliability though.