Easier Gear Shifter

Jodel

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Raboa - there is still some confusion / debate on this topic. This article advises that some 12 speed cassettes will fit Hyperglide freehubs:

"At (approx) 35 mm across the spline length, the original-width HG freehub remains current for mountain bike purposes, but is discontinued on road-specific wheels. This freehub fits 7, 8 and 9-speed Shimano and SRAM cassettes, regardless of whether the cassettes are for road or mountain biking.

Shimano 10, 11, and some 12-speed (if the smallest sprocket is 11T or greater) mountain bike cassettes are also a direct fit. Likewise, SRAM 10, 11, and some 12-speed (also with an 11T smallest sprocket) mountain bike cassettes fit. These newer 11 and 12-speed mountain bike cassettes fit the older and narrower HG freehub body by cantilevering the biggest cogs over the spokes."


Saneagle - I didn't know those integrated shifters existed or I would have tried them. However, having 'switched'(see what I did there :)) to wireless shifting, I'd be very reluctant to go back to a mechanical system. I appreciate that wireless isn't for everyone, but my experience of it has been so overwhelmingly positive that my arthritic digits would not like to change back.
 

AndyBike

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As I progress further into old gitness, I am suffering arthritic pain in my left thumb. This is making going up the gears on my front (left) changer very painful.
I seem to remember I once had a changer that was finger pull on both triggers, rather than thumb push on both.
I've tried looking but with no luck so far.
Anyone happen to know the type I mean?
I'm assuming that twist grip changers are no good.

What about automatic ? doing away entirely the need to manually shift.

My townie bike, the buzzbike is using a Bafang H700 automatic 2 speed internal geared hub.
Thus far its been fine for town/commuting use, and while no really steep hills, it can manage average inclines
 
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soundwave

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with a xd hub its the same but smallest cog is 10t

62292
 

egroover

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62293
 

matthewslack

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I don't know, it's hard to tell from photos.
What i need is a shifter that doesn't need me to to push heavily with my thumb, that's what's causing the pain.
If I was solving that problem for myself, I would find a way to mount a bar end shifter or the old kind of non-indexed shifter with its axis horizontal and across the bike, and mount a hand sized lever on it. Then the whole hand shares the load, and front derailleur changes are infrequent enough for me to put up with the lack of slickness.
 

guerney

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Increase power perhaps, to make the front derailleur redundant? Although I have 8 gears, I could manage with just three.
 
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soundwave

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Increase power perhaps, to make the front derailleur redundant? Although I have 8 gears, I could manage with just three.
morePOWER :oops:
 

guerney

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morePOWER :oops:
Wouldn't need many gears with a legal 50A X 48V=2400W. Would need ferrofluid for the motor, or oil to fill it with, and heatsinks, but it'd probably still burn. Of course, other higher power controllers than the OP's are available, as are more capable batteries less liable to explode with 50A dragged out continuously. Somewhere.

Or swap out the cassette for one with a lower gear, to enable the OP to use only one chainwheel?

Or transfer the kit to a 20" wheeled bike for more torque?

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004718795873.html
 
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AndyBike

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Increase power perhaps, to make the front derailleur redundant? Although I have 8 gears, I could manage with just three.
Same here. I've 1x12 and probably havent used more than 4
 

chris_n

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I'm guessing OP's bike has a freewheel on the back wheel and motor on the front. If the back wheels swapped with a cassette wheel with a wide range (11-40 10 speed keeps costs down) then a 36 or 38 tooth single chain ring would cover most likely scenarios and still have a decent top speed.
 

Benjahmin

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I have 48/38/28 front and 11-32 8speed rear. It serves me very well.
Did a ride yesterday where I took a 'I wonder where that goes?' local lane. It ended with a very steep, long climb. Despite being in gears 1 and 1, I was down to 5mph and had to stop to give my lungs, legs and controller a break. Well actually my phone conveniently rang - so that's my excuse.
I may well try the integrated shifters but need to get hydraulic brake cut off as well as I have a hill start device :rolleyes:

Jodel, so you found that twist grip worked for you? Never had one and I don't know if the turning moment of them will give enough advantage for an easy upshift. Think wireless may be out of my 'bike allowance' !
 
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