E-Bike suitable for towing Special Needs Trailer

[-Bucks-]

SW, granted that hub motors are not made for off-roading but I think the BPM torque will obliterate any Bosch motor, even the CX. Also, for towing a trailer, you can't beat the convenience of a full throttle.

It's all starting to sound very confusing to me now, I didn't realise there where so many variables! But I don't think I am really wanting a full throttle (if I understand the meaning right lol) I'm just wanting a bit of help with the peddling especially up hill

 

[trex]

It might be a daft idea, but I wonder if there is a way or even a system that has the trailer as the powered unit and not the bike, with the controls operated from the bike.

Dreaming here... A dual drive system with a large battery.

 

[trex]

It's all starting to sound very confusing to me now, I didn't realise there where so many variables! But I don't think I am really wanting a full throttle (if I understand the meaning right lol) I'm just wanting a bit of help with the peddling especially up hill

you are dead right that there are many variables.
Towing a trailer with a 13 year old up a hill is very hard work for any bike. Bosch CD system is a multiplier, you have to put in x, the bike will give you 2x, 3x or 4x depending on the mode you selected.
With a full power throttle, the bike will give you whatever amount of assist you need to climb the hill. You can be very tired, you can still get home. It's a plus.
The best system is a powerful CD bike with a full throttle.
http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?bali

 

[soundwave]

a bosch performance or cx motor bike will do that no problem and be about in top end budget look nice and have warranty.

if wanting more power than that then a bafang mid drive will give more power but will have to self build it and also have to option of a throttle and be a bit cheaper depending on the size batt you use and how far that you want to go miles wise.

 

[Alan Quay]

It's all starting to sound very confusing to me now, I didn't realise there where so many variables! But I don't think I am really wanting a full throttle (if I understand the meaning right lol) I'm just wanting a bit of help with the peddling especially up hill

Don't worry. SW has a different kind of 'off road' in mind.

When you say 'off road' I take it you mean 'not actually on a road'. Possibly some gravel and the odd puddle.

SW is thinking about full suspension, rocks/roots/jumps/berms, adrenaline, broken bones and high fives all round dude!

In short, a throttle will assist you to move away from a standing start.

 

[-Bucks-]

Don't worry. SW has a different kind of 'off road' in mind.

When you say 'off road' I take it you mean 'not actually on a road'. Possibly some gravel and the odd puddle.

SW is thinking about full suspension, rocks/roots/jumps/berms, adrenaline, broken bones and high fives all round dude!

In short, a throttle will assist you to move away from a standing start.

Yeh your on the right lines Alan lol
Defiantly not "SW is thinking about full suspension, rocks/roots/jumps/berms, adrenaline, broken bones and high fives all round dude!"

 

[soundwave]

not much point in full sus if toeing a trailer is there tbh and be well over budget.

would be better with a more powerful bafang mid drive but he does not want to self build to save on cost.

best option is to try some first and then make his mind up.

 

[-Bucks-]

THANKS for the continued help guys Sorry if I'm pushing my luck now but is there any chance of you's posting links of suitable bikes?

 

[soundwave]

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-pro-500-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141467

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-cross-hybrid-pro-400-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141464

http://www.flidistribution.co.uk/clearance---bikes/ex-demo-bikes/ex-demo-ktm-macina-action-29-plus---19

http://www.motostrano.com/M1-Spitzing-E-Bike-Electric-Bike-p/m1rs.htm

 

[-Bucks-]

not much point in full sus if toeing a trailer is there tbh and be well over budget.

would be better with a more powerful bafang mid drive but he does not want to self build to save on cost.

best option is to try some first and then make his mind up.

There doesn't seem to be any shops around us that stock these sort of bikes! our local shop starts @£2k for the "Whyte Coniston"
I think I'm going to have to research online then order online & hope to god I've made a suitable choice, has with our daughters dissabilities & health problems we aren't really in a situation to be travelling all over the place looking at bikes :-(

 

[flecc]

Woosh Big Bear

Woosh Bali

Ezee Sprint Primo

I personally use an Ezee e-bike for towing and have a fair degree of experience of towing large and heavy loads, as you'll see in the photos on this link
.

 

[-Bucks-]

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-pro-500-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141467

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-cross-hybrid-pro-400-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141464

http://www.flidistribution.co.uk/clearance---bikes/ex-demo-bikes/ex-demo-ktm-macina-action-29-plus---19

http://www.motostrano.com/M1-Spitzing-E-Bike-Electric-Bike-p/m1rs.htm

I do like the look of the Cube Cross Hybrid pro am I right in thinking this isn't a full throttle?

 

[soundwave]

no it has no throttle has 4 modes of peddle assist.

eco
tour
sport
turbo

http://www.bosch-ebike.de/en/ebike_systeme/performance_line_cx/performance_line_cx.html

 

[soundwave]

my bike has the performance motor and 400w batt tho i have a dongle to remove the 15mph limit.

 

[-Bucks-]

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-pro-500-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141467

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cube-cross-hybrid-pro-400-e-bike-2016/rp-prod141464

http://www.flidistribution.co.uk/clearance---bikes/ex-demo-bikes/ex-demo-ktm-macina-action-29-plus---19

http://www.motostrano.com/M1-Spitzing-E-Bike-Electric-Bike-p/m1rs.htm

I do also like the look of the "cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-pro-500" but it's getting a bit pricy! is this in a different league to the "cube-cross-hybrid-pro-400"?

 

[-Bucks-]

THANKS again guys for all your help
I will have to read through all your posts again tomorrow when I'm feeling a bit fresher lol & try to get my head round all the different specs!

 

[-Bucks-]

Has anyone else got any feedback on these Cube e-bikes that Soundwave has posted links on?

 

[soundwave]

http://www.e-bikepower.co.uk/cube-reaction-hybrid-hpa-pro-500-grey-29-bosch-2813-p.asp

thats the 1 you want with cx motor and 500w batt. or same spec same price.

git-r review
http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/cube-reaction-hybrid-pro-bosch-cx-500wh.23332/

 

[soundwave]

from you tube

 

[anotherkiwi]

If you are riding a bike on your own, with no throttle that's one thing. You can always screech to a halt, throw it the ground and run away.

If you are towing a vulnerable person behind, likely using a throttle, it's a different matter.

The throttle has to break for the bike to be out of control. With a modern EN15194 legal kit the throttle can't work if the pedals are not turning. And in most of the world the speed with a throttle is limited to 6 km/h. Are we seeing that the British throttle exception is in fact a pedelec safety risk? Ah Ha ! The plot thickens!

If you do have an out of control motor pull hard on both hydraulic brake levers and the motor will make a loud popping noise with lots of smoke... If it went out of control it was broken already so no loss!