20mph+ auto-fines via increased numbers of speed cameras, would be licenses to print money to fix potholes.
Drunk e-scooter rider on Cheltenham hen do banned from driving after weaving in and out of traffic
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Damned pain are those speed bumps! I hate slowing down but when the road isn't clear to cycle between them, I find that their heights are so variable that often my right pedal hits them when cycling around kerb side... Their heights and angles are all over the placeFixed that for you
And why are manhole covers and other embedded tarmac furniture on newly resurfaced roads set so deep? This is before heavy traffic has pushed them down. Road builders must be in league with SUV/yanktank manufacturers - maybe speedbumps will eventually become so big that they'll have thier own postcodes, and people will be able to live inside them, ceasing the ever increasing size of SUVs.
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Possibly short term.
But long term, if they appear on the pavements and roads in significant numbers, I suspect pedestrians and especially motorists will be very unhappy ......
If drivers wish to voluntarily donate money to the 'government' and it keeps my taxes down or is used to fix up the roads its got to be a good idea.
I wish the local law inforecement would sub-contract out the monitoring of vehicle speeds. If there was say a 20% collection fee, just a few minutes monitoring in the morning would be a nice little earner.
I am a strong supporter of 20mph limits, but I must admit that (on the rare occasions I take a car into our town centre) I often find I have inadvertently let speed creep up well over them; often to nearly 30mph.
"if" not to get too deep into politics but there should be several, based on prevailing winds from popular surveys.
I will ask my Father if he still intends to vote Tory, dollars to donuts he says "I don't like Boris but YES"
That is the extent of my survey taking.
They will never be enforced. Many police forces including our largest one, London's Metropolitan Police have formally announced that they will not attempt to enforce them. One reason is technical, the lower the speed being measured with hand held laser devices, the more inaccurate they become. And of course as mentioned, the police on routine patrols themselves won't observe them.
20 mph is too slow, i.c. cars in general are totally unsuited to maintaining such a slow constant speed, so speed creep sets in as sjpt posted. Oddly though, fully electric cars like my one are very suited to it due to their vastly superior controllability, so in a sense the 20 limits are a bit premature. In twenty and more years when the number of e-cars start to dominate, these slower limits will be more appropriate.
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I'm probably in the minority in that I do try to observe the 20mph limit. I also think that it is too slow in many cases, but if those are the rules, then I'll try to obey them. I set my cruise control for 22mph which equates to an actual 20mph according to radar speed limit signs / GPS. We have 20mph limits on some really wide roads, with almost no pedestrians or other 'hazards' - seems crazy to me.
One of my friends has a sign on the back of his car 'Sorry for driving so close in front of you'.
One of my friends has a sign on the back of his car 'Sorry for driving so close in front of you'.
I have yet to see a 20mph zone or a part time 20 limit outside a school with a sign marking the end of the restricted zone! Helpful to the challenger lawyers, no doubt.
In London they have the quite neighbourhood roads (ex rat runs) which were blocked by shrubs boxes /make shift barriers etc, to stop vehicular traffic during lockdown to increase safer walking and cycling activities. Now tbh we are out of restrictions and generally it appears the masses have declared covid over, the make shift barriers are being replaced by road signage and detection camera's. Ignoring such no go areas is now an automatic £130 fine if one drives along one.
It's also possible to have "play streets" anywhere in the country.
A Play Street is where a road is closed off to traffic for a few hours on a regular basis. This is so that children can have a safe space to play freely. Play Streets are organised, managed and run by local communities themselves.
Applications to have one should be made to one's Council, who offer advice and organise the closure of the road to traffic.
Google Play Steet and you'll see how many councils strongly promote them.
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A Play Street is where a road is closed off to traffic for a few hours on a regular basis. This is so that children can have a safe space to play freely. Play Streets are organised, managed and run by local communities themselves.
Applications to have one should be made to one's Council, who offer advice and organise the closure of the road to traffic.
Google Play Steet and you'll see how many councils strongly promote them.
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In what way are petrol/diesel cars totally unsuited to maintaining 20mph? My cars all have automatic gearboxes & can easily maintain a constant speed of 20mph or lower even less than walking pace if necessary. If you drive a car with a manual gearbox selecting the correct gear allows you to drive at any speed required.
I don't drive anymore, therefore I'd fully support a 15.5mph speed limit in all towns and cities - I expect automatic speed geo-limiting has a high likelihood of being programmed into electric vehicles at some point, and kill switches which can be activated by hotly-pursuing fuzz (and hobbyists, carjackers, muggers, rapists and kidnappers [all at the same time, is unlikely]).
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Drive a good fully electric car for any length of time in urban conditions, as I do, and then you'll understand. Yes, you can maintain a steady 20 mph in an i.c. car, but not with remotely the same ease, precision and enjoyment as with an electric car.
That's why so few in 20 limit zones keep to that speed. It's not that i.c. car drivers are mostly bad people, it's just that, as sjpt commented, speed creep sets in and they find themselves nearer 30 in no time if they don't constantly pay attention to keeping the speed down.
As I commented, in 20 or less years time when there's enough e-cars to dominate and control urban speeds, we'll see much more observance.
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Why not get political? Have you SEEN the 5,331 page (and counting) Brexit thread?"if" not to get too deep into politics but there should be several, based on prevailing winds from popular surveys.
I will ask my Father if he still intends to vote Tory, dollars to donuts he says "I don't like Boris but YES"
Fsck Tories! (apart from your Dad)At least she will still be able to ride an electric scooter during her 18 month driving ban.
E-scooter rider fined for drunken weaving in traffic after hen do
Paige Burnley admitted she did wrong when taxis failed to show up but argued she did not know the rules for e-scooterswww.gloucestershirelive.co.uk
Giving up tracking that thread saved me from nearly as much wasted time nearly as much as giving up Facebook had a few years before.
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