Disappointed in Scott

greyfox69

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I really like the Scott esub the bike is brilliant to ride, my problem is the customer service which is non existent to date, I hope that they read this and sort it out,if not it's there loss, as this will definitely influence my decision making process next time
 

martin@onbike

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Hi Greyfox,
We can only apologise on Scott's behalf for what hasn't been a great experience for you. Although it's understandably difficult for them to hold stock of every part for every bike, it would have been more acceptable to hold one generic type mudguard for the range of Sub Sports to cover this eventuality.
Contacting Curana direct was perhaps even less negative, as we made very little progress with them..perhaps Scott are struggling with Curana also?
So apologies once again, and if there's anything further we can assist you with please let me know.
 
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Gubbins

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Hi Greyfox,
We can only apologise on Scott's behalf for what hasn't been a great experience for you. Although it's understandably difficult for them to hold stock of every part for every bike, it would have been more acceptable to hold one generic type mudguard for the range of Sub Sports to cover this eventuality.
Contacting Curana direct was perhaps even less negative, as we made very little progress with them..perhaps Scott are struggling with Curana also?
So apologies once again, and if there's anything further we can assist you with please let me know.
Sorry but I have to disagree.. If you as a manufacturer sell something that can easily br accidentally damaged you have to stock replacement parts! What would happen had the guards failed through a manufacturing fault? Would they replace the whole bike? No, probably tell you it not a warrantied item!
As a through and through Scott customer (third bike all costing over 3K) I am seriously considering my loyalties!
 
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Getting spares for one of these type bikes will never be easy because there's too many people in the chain. If you look at something like a Wisper, they carry certain parts as spares, kept in a warehouse ready to ship out at a moment's notice. near to those spares are boxes full of new bikes waiting for distribution. If anybody calls for an unusual spare part, they can always take one of one of the unsold bikes and get the Chinese to stick a replacement part in the next delivery to make that bike good again.

With Scott bikes and similar, virtually every bike that comes into the country already has a dealer's name on it, so spares have to come all the way up the supply chain. There's so many different bikes in the catalogue and they're changing all the time, so it wouldn't be economical to stock all parts as spares. Compare that with say Oxygen, who only have three bikes in their range, and two of those are virtually the same.

Years ago, I ordered some steering head bearings for a Honda motorbike from a local bike shop. They ordered them from PFK Ling, the Honda motorbikes parts distributor. When they came, I could see serious wear in them. The shop washed his hands of the matter and refused to help, so I took it up with Lings. During the conversation, they told me that they got most of their spares by dismantling complete new bikes because that was the cheapest way they could get them. They couldn't explain how used parts got into their stock, but they sent me some new replacements anyway. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe an employee was refurbishing bikes at their expense, by swapping his worn out parts for the new parts in the stock.
 

greyfox69

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Thanks Martin I know you did your utmost to help, I have sent an email direct to scott uk as advised on here by Gubbins I await their response, if any?
I have sourced a replacement set from Germany ( I initially bought a curana set almost identical to the ones originally fitted, but ironically they arrived more damaged than the ones hanging off my bike, I didn't trust the supplier after that , the internal packaging was non existent and the box was battered??) i had to reorder from a different supplier and these look different and are much less robust as the one i mangled. A sense of humour is certainly required.
It could be worse I know, I have fell off it 4 or 5 times with very little damage to me or the bike.:D
 

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Regarding Woosh

To chip in or not to chip in ?
My opinion is it's good for them to participate, if I like what they put or not
Options is good
If I don't want go along with it just ignore

My thoughts but you could just ignore me as well LOL

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I agree Andy, so long as the message is on track.

I have to butt in and say how strange that a huge brand such as Scott, are not ready with all the spare parts necessary, locally, to keep their customers on the road. It's long been the way most ebikes businesses work. We have tens of thousands of Wispers on the road now, up to 12 years old, and 99% of the time we can supply the exact part needed, next day. It's not cheap way to do business, however any company that is asking a customer to part with a not inconsiderable amount of money for an ebike, a bike that could be their customer's only mode of transport, should be holding spare parts. No Excuses!

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greyfox69

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UPDATE!!! Gubbins you are a star (for giving me the email address) , I received an email today off scott warranty and after-sales support who cannot find any correspondence from me ??, In my email I told them to read the forum for the full back story, which I can only assume they did, they have now given me the part number of the item i require , which is in stock and can be ordered via any scott dealer. this response proves the power of the forum members, if ,and when I do get the replacement it will be thanks to you guys
 

Gubbins

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UPDATE!!! Gubbins you are a star (for giving me the email address) , I received an email today off scott warranty and after-sales support who cannot find any correspondence from me ??, In my email I told them to read the forum for the full back story, which I can only assume they did, they have now given me the part number of the item i require , which is in stock and can be ordered via any scott dealer. this response proves the power of the forum members, if ,and when I do get the replacement it will be thanks to you guys
Glad to help!
 
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greyfox69

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I must add that my dealer Mike at onbike has been working on this in the background since I decided to smash it with the garage door, so if I do manage to get a new one he will be heaped in praise also :D
 
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mountainsport

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I agree Andy, so long as the message is on track.

I have to but in and say how strange that a huge brand such as Scott, are not ready with all the spare parts necessary, locally, to keep their customers on the road. It's long been the way most ebikes work. We have tens of thousands of Wispers on the road now, up to 12 years old, and 99% of the time we can supply the exact part needed. It's not cheap way to do business, however a company is asking a customer to part with a not inconsiderable amount of money for an ebike, that could be their only mode of transport, holding spare parts is IMO imperative.

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All the best, David
Show off! :p

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I agree Andy, so long as the message is on track.

I have to but in and say how strange that a huge brand such as Scott, are not ready with all the spare parts necessary, locally, to keep their customers on the road. It's long been the way most ebikes work. We have tens of thousands of Wispers on the road now, up to 12 years old, and 99% of the time we can supply the exact part needed. It's not cheap way to do business, however a company is asking a customer to part with a not inconsiderable amount of money for an ebike, that could be their only mode of transport, holding spare parts is IMO imperative.

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David

I agree with most of these topics which have been covered on this thread
A dealer, good or bad should be able to supply spare parts for many years
Sorry but whisper isn't my style of bike, but being a hipercrit ive never tried one which doesn't do your product justice on my part, but I know thousands love your style of bikes

If I rang or emailed you for advice or a part I have 95% confidence in the out come to the good even though I haven't met yourself

What I'm trying to say is a dealer taking good money for a bike or even a car should be able to back the product up
Not always next day but as quickly as poss
If not hold there hands up as Onbike have and say we've tried

Andy
 
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UPDATE!!! Gubbins you are a star (for giving me the email address) , I received an email today off scott warranty and after-sales support who cannot find any correspondence from me ??, In my email I told them to read the forum for the full back story, which I can only assume they did, they have now given me the part number of the item i require , which is in stock and can be ordered via any scott dealer. this response proves the power of the forum members, if ,and when I do get the replacement it will be thanks to you guys
Sounds good. although the dealer looks pretty ineffectual.

Were I onbike, I might be inquiring firmly of Scott as to why they made me look stupid by not coming up with the part number for such a simple component.
 
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Don't know if it's the same across all manufacturers but it looks like they play the blame game.
My twinloc stopped working but instead of sending it back to Scott they sent the fork away to Fox who fixed it and sent it back. No issues at all.. I think it's the same with brakes and gears ...
Just going to jump in on this point. This is not a "blame game" its a quality point from all quality brands. If you buy a premium brand, and this is pretty much anything you can get in a bike shop, it'll come with branded components. In all cases, those branded components have their own UK support centres. This includes Bosch, Shimano, Fox, Rockshox, Sram Suntour, DT Swiss, etc etc. This doesn't effect you as the customer at all, because you go back to the shop, its the shop who would need to send your part to the correct experts who will fix / replace your component for you.

Its not a blame game, its the correct brands systems working correctly. Otherwise youd end up with every bike brand having to have duplicate stock and experts in place for every component on all their bikes, which would actually cost you the consumer more to support. This way, one company provides all tech support for the component brand in the UK. Its very efficient and means expert are on hand and stock is available more easily.
 
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Just going to jump in on this point. This is not a "blame game" its a quality point from all quality brands. If you buy a premium brand, and this is pretty much anything you can get in a bike shop, it'll come with branded components. In all cases, those branded components have their own UK support centres. This includes Bosch, Shimano, Fox, Rockshox, Sram Suntour, DT Swiss, etc etc. This doesn't effect you as the customer at all, because you go back to the shop, its the shop who would need to send your part to the correct experts who will fix / replace your component for you.

Its not a blame game, its the correct brands systems working correctly. Otherwise youd end up with every bike brand having to have duplicate stock and experts in place for every component on all their bikes, which would actually cost you the consumer more to support. This way, one company provides all tech support for the component brand in the UK. Its very efficient and means expert are on hand and stock is available more easily.
but you cant buy a frame on its own tho why? and is the 5 year warranty on the fame as all other bikes ie the front triangle only!
 

Gubbins

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I'm not sure what you're talking about.

You don't have any warranty, because you bought a second hand Haibike and have modified it... so what are you worried about?
Which is an interesting point. I contacted Scott to see how to transfer the warranty of a 6 month old bike to a new owner and was told that both the Scott and Bosch warranties are cancelled if I sell it.
I am assuming that all manufactures are the same, but I could easily be wrong...
 

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Wisper transfer warranties and Woosh will extend them for a new period for a small fee.
 
Which is an interesting point. I contacted Scott to see how to transfer the warranty of a 6 month old bike to a new owner and was told that both the Scott and Bosch warranties are cancelled if I sell it.
I am assuming that all manufactures are the same, but I could easily be wrong...
There is loads of things that I don't understand why people can't see how to play the game.

Using an example from an airport recently.

A lady was trying to board an easyjet flight with 2 bags of hand luggage, her bag and a handbag. EasyJet rules are one item of hand luggage.

She was having a stand up argument with the people at the gate, and getting very upset.

Solution... play the game.

Airport guidelines allow you to take one bag of duty free shopping onto the plane, so calm down, walk back the 100m into the lounge, buy something cheap and put your handbag in the plastic bag and walk back to the gate with a smug look on your face.

Its the same with warranties. The warranty is for the first person, ie you, so if you sell the bike, just give the new customer your phone number and if they need to make a claim they get you to do it. Warranty sorted, stress level zero. Game played and everyones happy.
 
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martin@onbike

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Sounds good. although the dealer looks pretty ineffectual.

Were I onbike, I might be inquiring firmly of Scott as to why they made me look stupid by not coming up with the part number for such a simple component.
No need to enquire anything from Scott.
The part number they have supplied is incorrect, for a different bike without an integrated lamp, and we ruled it out when Greyfox first approached us months ago.