August 5, 201213 yr Hello there, I realised that in London it's almost raining every 2 days. And I'm so annoyed when I have to cycle under the rain . I decided to get an umbrella for my bike:). Here's what I just ordered from eBay: http://image.pushauction.com/ViewPicture.aspx?Key=34a81782-afb4-439c-958b-533fd2aa521c_116f86de-a67d-4d2e-89f8-9aa9ad9fccf2&DisplayHeight=383&MaxWidth=500 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Solid-Umbrella-Bracket-Plank-for-Cycling-Bike-Bicycle-Motorcycle-Motor-/160762126864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256e2b6210 I'm not yet completely sure about the umbrella, but I think I'm going to use this super windproof one: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31zDNkOuteL._SL500_AA300_.jpg Senz XL BLACK Umbrella: Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors What do you think guys, has any of you tried it?
August 5, 201213 yr The wind is a bigger problem that the rain, and a gust of wind against an umbrella attached to one side of the handlebars as in that first photo will throw the bike off line into an accident. Ours is a quite windy country and the rain and wind often come together. A cycling cape and waterproof hat is a far better solution.
August 5, 201213 yr Author I'm completely aware of that last point. That's why I purchased a re-enforced umbrella holder and I'm planning to get this expensive (£50) windproof umbrella. It's suppose to be able to manage wind up to 70 mph. I don't think I'll have that much wind even if I go superfast
August 5, 201213 yr But when you're moving the relative path of the rain is horizontal, you'll still get soaked, have the added risk that Flecc has highlighted and you will look like a complete tit!
August 5, 201213 yr 1st, save your £50. 2nd, I'm never sure if these are wind ups or not but let's assume not. as Flecc pointed out, the wind will catch the umbrella and blow you and the bike all over the place. Buying a stronger umbrella will just mean a stronger wind can then blow you all over the place. Buy a set of waterproofs or a bus ticket.
August 5, 201213 yr I still think that when the wind comes up you will be in for a nasty shock cwah, especially at junctions where sudden cross winds can catch you out. You might also get a challenge from the police, bicycles have construction and use regulations too.
August 5, 201213 yr PLEASE dont do this Cwah......there is absolutely no doubt that this idea is NOT going to work as you hope, for all the reasons previously given, better to get wet than get dead. Lynda
August 5, 201213 yr Author I still think that when the wind comes up you will be in for a nasty shock cwah, especially at junctions where sudden cross winds can catch you out. You might also get a challenge from the police, bicycles have construction and use regulations too. Why would the police catch me for having an umbrella?
August 5, 201213 yr Why would the police catch me for having an umbrella? Because there is undoubtedly some sort of law against unsafe cycling. Also, the Police have a duty of care and have taken an oath to protect life and property. For instance, there is no law against attempting suicide, but if you try to jump off a building etc. the Police will grab you, even if they cannot arrest you they will wheel you into a Mental Hospital.
August 5, 201213 yr Why would the police catch me for having an umbrella? If they deem the bike unsafe to ride they can issue you a prohibition notice - just like they could if you rode at night without lights or without brakes etc. Don't do it - one moderate gust of wind from the left and you'll be pushed from the kerb into the middle of the road or under a bus.
August 5, 201213 yr Author Guys, I think you have too much "a priori' about umbrella. Check this video test of the Senz umbrella: [video=youtube;hFzOwq5PldQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzOwq5PldQ&feature=relmfu Tested at 130 kph and on a motorbike!! Whaaat else?
August 5, 201213 yr Cwah....it's not attached to a bicycle handlebar that's what else; are you deliberately ignoring the point raised or do you really not get it? I'm confused.
August 5, 201213 yr Author I understand a aknowledge your point, but people do use umbrella when they are cycling. It just hasn't happened yet in UK. In china you can find lot of picture with bike and umbrella: http://www.china.net.bz/images/l/201205/b/1334882694645-P-246581.jpg And sold here in the US for 79$ shipped to UK: http://uberhood.co/images/full-protection.jpg [video=youtube;qwul8HMpCP8] Uberhood | Protection for your Bicycle It does seem to work, isn't it? Edited August 5, 201213 yr by cwah
August 5, 201213 yr If I recall correctly, whenever The Prisoner was on the village bicycle, he'd use his umbrella.
August 5, 201213 yr I understand a aknowledge your point, but people do use umbrella when they are cycling. It just hasn't happened yet in UK. In china you can find lot of picture with bike and umbrella: http://www.china.net.bz/images/l/201205/b/1334882694645-P-246581.jpg And sold here in the US for 79$ shipped to UK: http://uberhood.co/images/full-protection.jpg [video=youtube;qwul8HMpCP8] Uberhood | Protection for your Bicycle It does seem to work, isn't it? They are going about 5mph in nice sunny calm weather! You are proposing to use this as a weather protection solution in high UK winds and rain on a 20-30 mph Brompton conversion on lethal potholed London roads. I would have thought that the last thing you would want with your bike is more danger and increased police attention? I think you need detaining under S136 of the Mental Health Act right now.
August 5, 201213 yr If I recall correctly, whenever The Prisoner was on the village bicycle, he'd use his umbrella. And how did SHE feel about this? I find a light weight waterproof nylon all-in-one suit is the answer. Especially if worn with waterproof overshoes. I try to avoid the bike cape since, on a windy day it completely blew over my head, and I couldn`t see a thing. Edited August 5, 201213 yr by neptune
August 5, 201213 yr I don't think it matters what the wind rating of the umbrella itself recommends. It is down to the person or the bike it is attached to. Even if an umbrella stated it would cope with 70mph winds that is the construction rating of the unit itself - attach it to a bike and it will still cause you turbulence and possibly drag you off course randomly. Think about it - you are potentially adding a sail to your bike! I have seen people on foot fighting with wind blown umbrellas and atleast if it gets too much they can let it go before it pulls them over! TBH, the stronger the umbrella the more dangerous I think it will be, as lesser rated umbrellas would fail in gusts strong enough to blow you around, hence lessen the chance of throwing you under an oncoming truck! The photos you have posted above to illustrate your theory carry little weight as all 3 shots look like a parasol type sunshade rather than a rain proof umbrella capable of dealing with the UK's unpredictable climate. These photos are also taken on bright calm sunny days - would love to see how it and the rider would cope in 50mph gusts and stair-rod downpours like we regularly get over here! Good set of waterproofs and a change of clothing for when you arrive at your destination is a much better investment. When you are riding in the rain, you tend to get more wet from spray off the road and passing vehicles anyway - how's the umbrella going to help with that? Edited August 5, 201213 yr by LesleyA
August 5, 201213 yr Are you for real cwah ? .......or just a figment of Russ' warped imagination ?? Lynda
August 5, 201213 yr Did you ever walk in the wind/rain with an umbrella? If not, buy a cheap umbrella and try. you will probably understand why everybody say don't! Goryl
August 5, 201213 yr For goodness sake ... let the silly bug*er get on with it! If cwah doesn't post again ... we will know that the advice was correct and he came to a sticky end! If he does post again, presumably he will tell us all it worked fine and we will all have learned something. Anyway, what happened to 'choice'? ... the subject of a recent thread about compulsory use of helmets, I recall
August 5, 201213 yr Yes sorry cwah I completely agree with the other posters this idea is a non starter and totally impractical. I am sure that modest testing in the space of a large empty car park will prove that your bike will be left utterly unstable and that as previously suggested the rain will get around and under any umbrella. Waterproof clothing is the way to go. Best wishes as you are one of the forums great characters! :-) Barry. Update: I have just noticed the youtube clips you posted and there is no sign of wind or rain or high speed cycling to be seen, swap those conditions for a wet and windy London and it wouldn't look so plausible. Edited August 5, 201213 yr by bazwaldo
August 5, 201213 yr http://www.fietsvakantiewinkel.nl/2www/images/kaarten/bikesuit.gif Welkom bij Fiets Vakantie Winkel
August 5, 201213 yr A while ago I saw someone attempting to pedal a bicycle on a really windy day. He had some sort of advertising board strapped to his back. He was in the cycle lane and could not get moving at all, just kept getting blown about. I was actually quite concerned as I had to overtake and turn left immediately after. I made the turn using the pavement instead as there was no way I would risk passing him with cars trying to overtake at the same time.
August 6, 201213 yr Author Guys, I directly pointed the issues to the seller: Me: "Hello there, I'm interested in this umbrella. But I'm very doubtful it would be able to face strong wind and rain from UK. With strong wind, wouldn't the umbrella reverse or (worse) push the bike out of the road? Thanks," Seller: "Thanks for your question. Naturally we can't guarantee that the Uberhood will withstand any conditions that mother nature will provide, no umbrella can. But I can further explain some of the information that we have on our website. We have done extensive testing of the Uberhood in high winds. We use our product. We have never had the umbrella reverse. One of the reasons contributing to this is the fact that the umbrella is rigidly mounted the your bike. Whenever you see someone who has had their umbrella reversed in a high wind, it is because they have allowed their umbrella to tip away from the wind, and allowed the wind get under the umbrella and catch the air. Uberhood won't do this. It is mounted to your bike rigid and level to the ground, so the wind flows over the umbrella; never tipping away from the wind and catching the air. Another reason is the Uberhood is built more rigidly than the typical umbrella that one carries. It's just plain stronger. Concerning getting pushed around, the Uberhood is more aerodynamic than one would think. The wind flows over the umbrella remarkedly well. We have not had any issues being pushed in high winds, nor have we heard from any customers with that issue. Having said that however, you will feel high winds push a bit, slightly more than if you had no Uberhood, so some common sense is in order. If the winds are high, and you don't feel comfortable with your Uberhood up, take it down. As you get more comfortable riding with your Uberhood, I expect that you will use it in higher winds too." What do you think about what he says? Seems sound?
August 6, 201213 yr Here we go again. cwah I cant make my mind up whether you are a troll or just living on a different planet. Go for it along with your weird ideas for trailers and im pretty certain you will have a good chance of winning a darwin award.
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