Cycle Paths

flecc

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As far as I can tell, there is no legislation on audible warning devices for bikes. The highway code suggests they're optional:

https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82/overview-59-to-71
There is legislation for all bicycle dealers though. By law they must supply a bell (or presumably an alternative device?) with every bike sold. It does not have to be fitted though!! Some dealers just offer the free bell at point of sale to ensure legality, but many don't bother so it's yet another widely ignored cycling law.
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billadie

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Neighbour's moggie Jimmy (James Evilkatt on Facebook) has habit of lying down in front of bike, daring you to try to move. If you do, he sticks his tail into the wheel! Cat's tail soup anyone?:D
 

Gubbins

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I came across one of the new intelligent dogs that can talk! It ran out in front of me and it's mummy/owner/numpty said with finger wagging *how many times have I told you about running out in front of bikes? " I didn't wait to hear the response!
 
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Gubbins

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I could have done with the light/horn here..... Look for the runner in Red, and then the marshals....
I was going steady and keeping to the water side, but the guy in red just ran straight at me, and the marshals just looked at me as though I shouldn't be there...
 
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I think I'd have cycled close to the wall and made them run next to the canal. That was pretty scary. We've already had a couple of members put their bikes in a canal. We don't want any more.
 
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steve.c

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I could have done with the light/horn here..... Look for the runner in Red, and then the marshals....
I was going steady and keeping to the water side, but the guy in red just ran straight at me, and the marshals just looked at me as though I shouldn't be there...
Typical realy, I get this in Exeter along the canal at times and the best bit is that they run on the cycle lane and leave the adjoining footpath free???when they are separated by a two foot of grass and each walk/cycle path are about 10' wide and the last time they were all gathering for the start and were blocking both lanes !! and totally ignored me when I rang my bell and then shouted (excuse me) so I had to force myself through??
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I could have done with the light/horn here..... Look for the runner in Red, and then the marshals....
I was going steady and keeping to the water side, but the guy in red just ran straight at me, and the marshals just looked at me as though I shouldn't be there...
 

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Does anyone know what its like along the Lea Valley, east London?
Looks like a good circuit.
Thinking of going up and trying it tomorrow starting off at the Olympic Park.
Don't fancy falling into the river though.

Hatti
 

jhruk

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Excellent – I often cycle into London along here and haven't fallen in yet. From the Olympic park just head north towards Hertford. You can get the train back from any point along the route – no train cycle restrictions at the weekend.

The maps on this page may be helpful

You can cycle virtually anywhere in the park, even those paths marked as footpaths on the maps. It can get quite busy along the towpath on a Sunday but there are usually other paths away from the river you can take instead. NCR 1 takes you to the confluence of the Lea and Stort then NCR 61 to Hertford, along the Lea, or continue on 1 to Harlow, along the Stort.

You can also cycle round the Lea Valley White Water Centre, built for the Olympics, which is adjacent to the river at Waltham Abbey. Near here is Waltham Abbey itself, which is worth the short detour if you're interested in churches.

Most of it is flat but there is a hill between points 8 and 10 on the Broxbourne to Waltham Abbey map that is a good test for an electric bike and has an excellent viewpoint at the top.
 

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Thanks for that jhruk. Sounds really good.
I' ll give it a whirl (or rather, a woosh...)
Hatti
 

Nealh

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I have an air zound and make good use of it, It certainly gets people's attention.
 

flecc

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I have an air zound and make good use of it, It certainly gets people's attention.
With many elderly people in my area I stopped using mine and removed it. I'm sure the funeral directors would have liked me to carry on though.
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Woosh

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Well, thanks to jhruk, I spent a very pleasant 3 hours in the East End yesterday and would thoroughly recommend it. Only took the little Gale folder but it went a treat and I passed quite a few lycras - hee hee!
The Olympic Park is very good. Wide boulevards plus smaller tracks, lots of landscaping and picnic tables, childrens playgrounds and cafes. Plus of course the sports venues which were interesting in themselves - I peered through the window at the fantastic Olympic pool and also went into the velodrome (couldn't use my bike in there though!)
But going back to the cycle path issue - the park works very well because it is so spacious and although there were loads of people out for a Sunday walk you couldn't cause a problem. Went down on to the towpath and into Victoria Park and things were a bit different. The towpath in places was quite narrow - 6 feet on average, and there were bits that went up very steep hills to exit onto the park gates with blind corners. A lycra zoomed past me and got shouted at by an elderly couple - he had somewhat surprised them. On the steep blind corners its also feasible to career into kids/parents walking down the other way - you just don't see them and using the bell didn't seem to work.
I think along the towpath there should be signs saying that pedestrians must take priority and that cyclists should dismount on 'tricky bits'.
There were also some small humped sections which were OK, except they were heavily cobbled! And one very short but very steep hill with great big cobbles. I got off but my friend made it on his Zephyr as easy as pie - and got some very interested looks from dismounted lycras.
I also had to go round the very infamous Bow roundabout which has seen a lot of cyclist fatalities over the past few years. There are now traffic lights exclusively for cyclists - but I saw one guy blatently disregard them. It is pretty scary, I can tell you, and this was a Sunday with hardly any lorries.
I think we need to invest a lot more money into cyclepaths. Here in Southend they simply stop and start - it is a nightmare. And of the two major roads into Southend (A13 and 127) the A13 has no cycle paths and the 127 uses the pavement. Oh well.
Hatti
 

RobF

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Well, thanks to jhruk, I spent a very pleasant 3 hours in the East End yesterday and would thoroughly recommend it. Only took the little Gale folder but it went a treat and I passed quite a few lycras - hee hee!
The Olympic Park is very good. Wide boulevards plus smaller tracks, lots of landscaping and picnic tables, childrens playgrounds and cafes. Plus of course the sports venues which were interesting in themselves - I peered through the window at the fantastic Olympic pool and also went into the velodrome (couldn't use my bike in there though!)
But going back to the cycle path issue - the park works very well because it is so spacious and although there were loads of people out for a Sunday walk you couldn't cause a problem. Went down on to the towpath and into Victoria Park and things were a bit different. The towpath in places was quite narrow - 6 feet on average, and there were bits that went up very steep hills to exit onto the park gates with blind corners. A lycra zoomed past me and got shouted at by an elderly couple - he had somewhat surprised them. On the steep blind corners its also feasible to career into kids/parents walking down the other way - you just don't see them and using the bell didn't seem to work.
I think along the towpath there should be signs saying that pedestrians must take priority and that cyclists should dismount on 'tricky bits'.
There were also some small humped sections which were OK, except they were heavily cobbled! And one very short but very steep hill with great big cobbles. I got off but my friend made it on his Zephyr as easy as pie - and got some very interested looks from dismounted lycras.
I also had to go round the very infamous Bow roundabout which has seen a lot of cyclist fatalities over the past few years. There are now traffic lights exclusively for cyclists - but I saw one guy blatently disregard them. It is pretty scary, I can tell you, and this was a Sunday with hardly any lorries.
I think we need to invest a lot more money into cyclepaths. Here in Southend they simply stop and start - it is a nightmare. And of the two major roads into Southend (A13 and 127) the A13 has no cycle paths and the 127 uses the pavement. Oh well.
Hatti
Well done for surviving the Bow roundabout.

No substitute for knowledge, so at least you knew to be very careful.

There is a set of cycle traffic lights on the main road leading west from Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

It is straight, and three lanes in each direction.

Trouble is the cycle lights are a few yards after an ordinary set.

Motorists hammer through the ordinary set on green, not realising the cycle lights could be on red.

A mate of mine was only missed because the speeding motorist ran the lights in the outside lane and my mate had just started to cross so was crossing lane one when the car shot past his front wheel.
 

jhruk

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Glad you enjoyed the trip hatti. Yes, the towpath is a rather narrow in places. I don't know whether you went down the Limehouse Cut but I find that the scariest part when it's busy as it's not only narrow but there's a long drop to the water as well. I hope I didn't mislead you by saying it was mostly flat – the hills you refer to I think of more as ramps.

Strangely, in many years of cycling down there, I've never negotiated the Bow roundabout. It may be my cowardice but as a leisure cyclist there's no real need to. I'm usually travelling north-south and while I used to walk the bike across the two carriageways under the flyover they've now built a boarded path under the bridge over the river, so I go under it all now.
To go east-west, say between the Olympic Park and Victoria Park, I'd use either the Hertford Canal or the Victoria Walk Greenway, which I think is fully open again now, though possibly not well signed. I think it's mostly commuter cyclists in a hurry that use the roundabout - or brave Essex Wooshers!



You must set aside another day and explore the more northerly parts of the Lea valley sometime – it's a bit quieter up here.
 
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Woosh

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Thanks for map jhruk - wish I'd had it Sunday. Will definitely look at the north Lea valley too.
Can anyone recommend any other good places to ride down here in the south east (ie Essex, Kent, Herts, Suffolk) with easy paths away from traffic? I know there are wonderful places down in the west country, Wales and in the north but I can't get there so easily.

Hatti.