Controller wiring dilemma

[six9giant]

I purchased this controller and King Meter from Germany, in a ebay auction.
The out put wires are all the same colour
I have found the pedal sensor connection and the King Meter connection.
Just not sure what the two remaining red, yellow, blue x 2 connectors go to,
As my brake cut outs are only two wires style connector ?
Then the small Red, Brown connector, what does that go to ?

I'm hoping to use this on a direct drive hub that only has two output wires Positive & Negative
This controller has three output wires Yellow, Green and Blue.
can I use just two of those to power the front hub motor ?

I have been told that this controller is fitted to the Kudos Cobra
I have uploaded pictures of the controller & connectors

Bryan

 

[Alan Quay]

Sounds like its the wrong controller for your motor. If your motor has two wires, it's a brushed one. If your controller has three wires it's for a brushless motor.

Just using two wires won't work I'm afraid.

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[six9giant]

Alan.
Can you recommend any controllers that will work with the King Meter set up, as most that I've purchased have no LCD/LED connectors fitted

 

[Alan Quay]

Alan.
Can you recommend any controllers that will work with the King Meter set up, as most that I've purchased have no LCD/LED connectors fitted

Sorry, brushed motors are not really my thing.

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[Deleted member 4366]

You'll be lucky to find a brushed motor controller with a pedal sensor. Normally, they're throttle only, though pedal sensor ones do exist if you search far enough.

Controllers with three wires, green, blue and yellow, for the motor are three phase, so not suitable for a brushed motor with two wires.

The red, blue and yellow wires are for brakes with a hall sensor. Red is 5v, yellow is ground and blue is the signal wire. For 2-wire brakes, you connect the yellow and blue, and leave red disconnected.

 

[six9giant]

You'll be lucky to find a brushed motor controller with a pedal sensor. Normally, they're throttle only, though pedal sensor ones do exist if you search far enough.

Controllers with three wires, green, blue and yellow, for the motor are three phase, so not suitable for a brushed motor with two wires.

The red, blue and yellow wires are for brakes with a hall sensor. Red is 5v, yellow is ground and blue is the signal wire. For 2-wire brakes, you connect the yellow and blue, and leave red disconnected.

I don't want a pedal sensor on this conversion,
Throttle control is the desired task connected to the King Meter LCD if possible.
Sorry if my message was confusing.
The pedal sensor was just a description of the connection suggestion.

 

[Alan Quay]

I don't want a pedal sensor on this conversion,
Throttle control is the desired task connected to the King Meter LCD if possible.
Sorry if my message was confusing.
The pedal sensor was just a description of the connection suggestion.

Where did you get a brushed motor from? Presumably it's an old one, or taken from something else?








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[six9giant]

I bought an old powacycle trike for a song, sadly wiring/control removed, tested the motor and spins okay.
Just wanted to bring it into the 21st century if possible.

 

[Alan Quay]

I bought an old powacycle trike for a song, sadly wiring/control removed, tested the motor and spins okay.
Just wanted to bring it into the 21st century if possible.

Ah, I see.

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[Deleted member 4366]

Loads of brushed motor controllers on ebay. You need one about 20A, which is 350w in Chinese speak. Look at the photo or spec. to see if the maximum current is written down anywhere. Often it's on the label stuck to the controller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=brushed+motor+controller&_sac=1&_osacat=888&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.H1.Xbrushed+controller.TRS0&_nkw=brushed+controller&_sacat=888

 

[six9giant]

I purchased one from a dealer in Warrington and in the process of fitting it, won't be using the brake light or indicator.
What is the charger wire for ?
Only comes with one Yellow/Black brake cable, so splice both wires together.
Thick Yellow motor (negative ?)
Thick Blue motor (positive ?)
Chinese wiring goes against my electrical training, hair pulling moment
Will post photos of modifications later

 

[Deleted member 4366]

The charger wire is probably just battery voltage . Check it with a meter. The motor will go backwards if you connect the two wires the wrong way round, so try it.

 

[manman94]

You'll be lucky to find a brushed motor controller with a pedal sensor. Normally, they're throttle only, though pedal sensor ones do exist if you search far enough.

Controllers with three wires, green, blue and yellow, for the motor are three phase, so not suitable for a brushed motor with two wires.

The red, blue and yellow wires are for brakes with a hall sensor. Red is 5v, yellow is ground and blue is the signal wire. For 2-wire brakes, you connect the yellow and blue, and leave red disconnected.

Just to carry on my bike has 2 wire connector for the front light and same for back light ,I've ordered a new controller but noticed the connection for the lights on the new controller only have a sing wire connector there are 2 of course for front and back .
So how could I get round this dilemma any help appreciated.

 

[saneagle]

Just to carry on my bike has 2 wire connector for the front light and same for back light ,I've ordered a new controller but noticed the connection for the lights on the new controller only have a sing wire connector there are 2 of course for front and back .
So how could I get round this dilemma any help appreciated.

Wire lights directlt to the battery via a switch. Don't use the controller connector. they're not reliable enough.

 

[manman94]

I have 1t4 cable and the display wire colours are different than the display connection from my display,as seen in the photos.
Can anybody tell me which is the correct combination I'm thinking green to green and black to black but I'm not sure of the other 3 .

 

[saneagle]

You need to check with a meter which of the orange and red is the wire with battery voltage on it. The live one needs to go to the red and the other goes to the blue. black goes to black and you have to get the other two by trial and error.

Whatever you do, do not let the orange or the red touch any other wires, even when switched off because capacitors in the controller keep them live. If you do anything with them, you should disconnect from the controller first.

 

[manman94]

Wow thanks for the heads up I tried your combination but nothing didn't even power on so I guess instead of brown being power it must be orange.
What a learning experience all is I'm loving it..
Who doesn't love a challenge to figure things out to get that final result,that moment when you screen I DID I FIGURED IT OUT.