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connector help

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A little off topic on this one but did you Billy carry out hall sensor testing on your hub motor ?
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A little off topic on this one but did you Billy carry out hall sensor testing on your hub motor ?

 

 

Hi Nealh I'm afraid I haven't touched moped until today as got fed up fixing it. But back onto it again. But have forgot now what to do as been told to check Phase wires but not connected and was told black probe go to ground and then red to green phase wire.. but which is ground as I have tried black probe in the battery N slot on moped what plugs into battery but no readings at all there is a black wire from controller too but even tried that cant get no reading so maybe I am not touching ground

 

Btw I received a new controller from Erider But not sure where all wires go now I think I have explained right

 

Ok now I think this is right wires with red circle must be hall wires as there is 5

 

the plug in pink circle I don't know where that go its 4 pins

 

the plugs in yellow circle I think go to the alarm as that's 2 connections

 

the black mark I think those 2 are to replace 2 plugs what come from controller and go into wiring loom

 

the light green circle I think is the throttle as 3 wires black red and blue

 

the dark blue are battery power leads

 

and the light blue are the 3 phase wires

 

would this be correct

 

and I think the 2 white wires you join for learning

 

IMG-1606.jpg

 

 

 

 

I found this page too which is handy but Im stuck on Phase wires which is the ground

 

https://ebikes.ca/learn/troubleshooting.html

Edited by billyboya

What about the pedal option of PAS ?

Either the light Green or Pink ?

If the Pink group has a White wire I would be inclined to think it may be for a throttle, otherwise you will need E rider to confirm the wire connectors status.

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What about the pedal option of PAS ?

Either the light Green or Pink ?

If the Pink group has a White wire I would be inclined to think it may be for a throttle, otherwise you will need E rider to confirm the wire connectors status.

 

The pink group has 4 wires green, red, purple, & black

The light green must be the throttle But I wont know which one is PAS as there is no more connections for them to plug into and the only whites wires are those 2 laying across top which I think are learning ones

White wires will be either learn wires or a speed restriction wire.

 

Ok we will take it then that throttle is the Green group and the pink could or may be is for a torque sensor (which makes more sense with 4 wires).

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White wires will be either learn wires or a speed restriction wire.

 

Ok we will take it then that throttle is the Green group and the pink could or may be is for a torque sensor (which makes more sense with 4 wires).

 

Yes but I don’t have a plug for that torque sensor that’s if it is that

Later model 15 mopeds may have had the cadence sensor PAS replaced with a TS sensor and you may have the later controller version that supports TS.
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Well I e-mailed Erider and there reply was.

 

We don't have wiring diagrams for the controller wires. The connectors are mainly all different and should guide you

 

But I think I know which are the phase, hall, and power connections are

 

light blue = phase

dark blue = power

green = throttle

red = halls sensor wires x 5

yellow 2 plugs for the alarm

black 2 x single wires 1 go to display other go to horn, indicators, and headlamp box on left of handle bars

 

but now I have a problem as in this image below the throttle wires on left are from controller, are from top black,red &blue but the other part I ordered the wires are same colour but not same order, red,blue,&black so will that matter

 

IMG-1611.jpg

Red & Black have to match as they are 5v & Gnd respectively, the fact the signal happens to be the same (Blue) is coincidental.
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Red & Black have to match as they are 5v & Gnd respectively, the fact the signal happens to be the same (Blue) is coincidental.

 

How can I do change them now, as I have bought 5 pairs of those throttle wire connectors JST-SM

 

I cant see how to change the wires, actually the seller on ebay was displaying red green & white wires but when they arrived they are red, blue, & black wires

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322507543319

Edited by billyboya

Using a needle one pokes it in the small hole in the end to depress a small barb and at the same time gently pull the wire out from the end other, another option if you aren't easily confused is to use a piece of colour heatsink on each end of the wire to re designate the colour order (one then has to remember to forget about the main wire colour and be guided by the heat sink colour when connecting up).

So shrink a bit of Red each end to the Black wire, a bit of Black to the Blue wire and any colour you like to the Red (middle) wire to donate it is the signal (personally I would use White.

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Using a needle one pokes it in the small hole in the end to depress a small barb and at the same time gently pull the wire out from the end other, another option if you aren't easily confused is to use a piece of colour heatsink on each end of the wire to re designate the colour order (one then has to remember to forget about the main wire colour and be guided by the heat sink colour when connecting up).

So shrink a bit of Red each end to the Black wire, a bit of Black to the Blue wire and any colour you like to the Red (middle) wire to donate it is the signal (personally I would use White.

 

Hi Nealh I was thinking of removing each wire like you said. using a pin or needle, I dont have any coloured heat sink so will try needle way then push each back in same order as controller end

 

bingo Ive managed to remove the wires and line them up to controller end thanks Nealh

 

IMG-1621.jpg

Edited by billyboya

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Much better.

 

So far I have not yet tried the New Controller just been changing plugs on it for now to match mine. I tried that MOSFET tests held black probe on black wire from controller and 1st tried green Phase wire with red Probe But never got a reading at all on all 3. the meter just stayed on 1. thats on 200 ohm mode tried same on diode it was counting up numbers like 1.5 etc but after a while just went to OL again I got fed up in the end so may try new controller soon.

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Much better.

 

Nealh would you know where I can get one of these in the UK black if possible as I have tried Ebay Amazon but no one do them unless there is somewhere

 

its a Deans Connector Bulkhead

 

 

 

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