Caught someone driving badly via my cam, am I allowed to put it on youtube with the car reg on?

Aushiker

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I wonder how many cyclists would be prosecuted if drivers had cameras....
Why should I expect to earn the respect of someone I have no idea about and probably will never see again? Why do I need their respect to ride my bicycle legally on the road? Do I have to earn their respect when I walk?

Do I have to earn their respect I drive their car? Do you expect other drivers to earn your respect? If no then why the expectation of cyclists only?

What I do expect is to be able to get home safely whatever my mode of transport, what I do expect is to be about to get home without being bullied and intimidated irrespective of my mode of transport. To much to ask?

When I am driving I don't go around using my car to intimidate or bully others and I do my very best to drive with care and consideration for all road users, irrespective of their mode of transport. I sure as heck don't expect cyclists to earn my respect ... they are just a person that I pass on my drive; most likely not to see again

That shouldn't be too hard for everyone, should it?

My cameras are there because others have seems to have the view that I need to "earn their respect", it is about my need to "respect them" they feel that they need to remind me about; they are there because others don't seem to grasp the concept that a little care and consideration goes a long way. They are there because a little lack of consideration or care can do a heck of lot damage to me and/or my family.

Heck I have been off the bike for nearly six weeks simply because my front tyre blew out ... imagine what sort of injuries a "tap" from a motor vehicle can do.

Earn your respect ... no thanks; but I will take ones safe and considerate driving anytime thanks.

Andrew
 
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Willber G

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Why should I expect to earn the respect of someone I have no idea about and probably will never see again? Why do I need their respect to ride my bicycle legally on the road? Do I have to earn their respect when I walk?

Do I have to earn their respect I drive their car? Do you expect other drivers to earn your respect? If no then why the expectation of cyclists only?

What I do expect is to be able to get home safely whatever my mode of transport, what I do expect is to be about to get home without being bullied and intimidated irrespective of my mode of transport. To much to ask?

When I am driving I don't go around using my car to intimidate or bully others and I do my very best to drive with care and consideration for all road users, irrespective of their mode of transport. I sure as heck don't expect cyclists to earn my respect ... they are just a person that I pass on my drive; most likely not to see again

That shouldn't be too hard for everyone, should it?

My cameras are there because others have seems to have the view that I need to "earn their respect", it is about my need to "respect them" they feel that they need to remind me about; they are there because others don't seem to grasp the concept that a little care and consideration goes a long way. They are there because a little lack of consideration or care can do a heck of lot damage to me and/or my family.

Heck I have been off the bike for nearly six weeks simply because my front tyre blew out ... imagine what sort of injuries a "tap" from a motor vehicle can do.

Earn your respect ... no thanks; but I will take ones safe and considerate driving anytime thanks.

Andrew
You seem to be assuming that cyclists always obey the rules of the road. I wish I was in a position to have a conversation with the one who recently pulled out from between parked cars at night without lights, causing me to brake and swerve (otherwise I may have killed him) resulting in knocking my car mirror of against another car. The cyclist was oblivious, leaving me to pick up the pieces. I live near a university and it happens all too often.
 
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Aushiker

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You seem to be assuming that cyclists always obey the rules of the road. I wish I was in a position to have a conversation with the one who recently pulled out from between parked cars at night without lights, causing me to brake and swerve (otherwise I may have killed him) resulting in knocking my car mirror of against another car. The cyclist was oblivious, leaving me to pick up the pieces. I live near a university and it happens all too often.
No I don't assume that all, in fact I regularly and deliberately do it myself at a stop sign just metres from my home. Why, because one to many hard stops by people driving motor vehicles behind me who have no intention of stopping and suddenly realise I am. I have learnt that my life is far more valuable than earning their respect so I now roll up to the stop sign if a motor vehicle is coming up behind me or more typically tailgating (not only illegal but damn dangerous but hey that is okay right, because I need to earn their respect by obeying the law) me here and if it is safe to proceed I roll through or if not I brace myself. Nice don't you think and all because I haven't gained some random vehicle operator's respect.

On that basis I guess I fail the "respect test" and I guess all people riding bikes must do so now because of me so I apologise to them all for that but I don't want or care about the respect of others driving motor vehicles for me personally. Being injured does not justify it. Thankfully, but when I get in the car and drive all is good again :)

All that said I am curious as to how I am to earn the respect of the 200 to 500 people for example driving motor vehicles who pass me when I am commuting to or from work, besides of course stopping at that stop sign. Should I ask them if that ticked the box?

Please also do tell how I am meant to know if I have succeed and for that matter all other persons riding bicycles including children of course and if I haven't how am I mean to correct that and do all of that in a few fleeting seconds as they pass.

Do I fail because I didn't stop at the sign some hours ago (I only go through that stop sign on the way home)? Do I fail because I stopped at the red lights? Do I fail because another random person riding a bicycle somewhere didn't stop at a red light? Do I get respect if I was riding my bicycle safely and in accordance with the law? If the latter is true can you please explain this driving then by a truck driver ... is it because I hadn't gained his respect first? Should I have stopped at the lights we "met" at earlier on and asked for it? Actually I probably should have begged for it given what happened minutes later down the road. Just for the record I was 100% in compliance with the state road rules ... not an ounce of law breaking ...


Unlike your bicycle rider, I doubt I would have lived had that truck hit me. Where is the respect for me, my children, my sister, my partner?

In closing I struggle to understand your thinking which I see so often when we have such a high death rate, such a high injury rate on our roads. Are cyclists to blame for all this? Is it because they haven't earned the respect of people not driving motor vehicles? If not, why is there an expectation that they must earn this respect of those doing the majority of the killing and injuring. Shouldn't it be around the other way around if "obeying the law" is so critical?

I agree but that all road users should obey the law, and use the roads in a safe and considerate manner with the well being of all road users in mind.

Cheers
Andrew
 
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Emo Rider

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We have a person in this thread that feels that all cyclist get no repect because of the actions of a handfull of cycle idiots. I drive my car and my bike and see idiots driving cars all of the time. Still I am respectful of all traffic at all times because it is the right thing to do. People with no repect for other road users do not belong on said road. Yes I have ridden briefly on a non shared pavement to avoid a dangerous situation. Yes I have ignored a red figure on a crosswalk when there was no traffic coming. But does that mean I should be disrespected to the point of risking serious injury or the loss of my life?

With events of the last two weeks of commuting by bicycle behind me, I am seriously considering giving up the bike. I had five incidents that all could have resulted in serious injury. Last evening, a woman illegally parked on a pavement opened her door in my face even though I was ringing my bell and warning verbally of my approach. I was on a busy city dual carrigeway. Cars were passing by inches away at 50 plus mph as they regularly do. I was forced to swerve out into traffic. Luckily I was not hit. When I turnred around to to confront, all I got was laughter from her and her passengers. When traffic slowed further up the road and I caught up they continued to harass me even though they had just almost cost me my life.

In all five cases I was doing nothing illegal and riding where I should as I should. With front and rear lights (daytime visible) and wearing hi vis yellow. Out of the five incidents, only one driver apologised saying they had made a mistake.

I could send the police a video from two days ago and the one from last night but I doubt they would result in anything but a caution and no loss of points because I was not hurt. This is not right all by itself. These people risked my well being and would probably get no punishment. If I walked up to them waving a knife around, I'd get locked up. As should they. Perhaps then they'd gain a bit of respect.
 
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bonerp

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And it's these attitudes that result in motorists hating cyclists (because often cyclist do do things that are dangerous or resulting in uninsured damages) or cyclists hating motorists (mainly because cyclists seem to think they have a god given right to assume motorists will give them right of way.
I used to have a motorbike. I rode defensively and not once got into bother.
Let's face it, some cyclists are morons. If you ride with road sense and consideration to others, then I'm not talking about you.... So stop getting upset!
As a cyclist and ex driver I can really seems problems on both sides.
 

Emo Rider

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And it's these attitudes that result in motorists hating cyclists (because often cyclist do do things that are dangerous or resulting in uninsured damages) or cyclists hating motorists (mainly because cyclists seem to think they have a god given right to assume motorists will give them right of way.
I used to have a motorbike. I rode defensively and not once got into bother.
Let's face it, some cyclists are morons. If you ride with road sense and consideration to others, then I'm not talking about you.... So stop getting upset!
As a cyclist and ex driver I can really seems problems on both sides.
Not really sure how to respond to this because the author might be cycling on another planet. "God given right"? I prefer to call it the highway code which I try to follow to the best of my ability. Yes I have amittedly sinned as stated in a previous post. However, I have a problem understanding how someone that cycles can blame what has happened to me in the last two weeks on some yob darting out into the middle of the road from between two cars. It is total ingnorance or total disregard for the law. No one can justify putting one individual at risk because of the actions of another. 99% of traffic I encounter while cycling oor driving is doing exactly what they should do. I do not hate all of them because of the actions of the other 1%.
 
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