Cash point machune/atm security advice please be on the alert!!!!!!

[mountainsport]

Hello to all,

Did you know this? Whenever you need cash at any given time of the day or night and for some suspicious reason you see someone approaching you,then telling you to give up your money or cash,please try your utmost best not to panic.

This is what you should do,type in your pin number for example 1234 in reverse 4321 then staight away that will trigger an alarm off to the nearest police station,then to the nearest patrol car,and hopefully by then they will come quickly in time to catch the rotten thief.

The funniest and weierdest thing though is that after typing in your pin number in reverse the machine still dispenses your cash. So, if that is the case then i surely hope that all police cars these days are fitted with a turbo engine as well as a highly trained skilled driver.

What are your views on this,is this a good and effective method?

Mountainsport.

 

[103Alex1]

Well it might be - if there was any prospect of the fuzz being interested in arriving fast enough to catch any thieves !!

Hate people lurking round cashpoints especially in groups... it only takes an opportunity to tempt some people. It's not polite or sociable to try to strike up conversations with people whilst they're using an ATM.

Recent story actually, I nipped up to town at night to get cash to buy my Trek next day as we'd promised to be there early and a 'rather merry' group of 3 girls and 2 guys came down the street and surrounded me at the ATM. I'd just put £500 in my wallet. No sign of them when I arrived. All drunk holding glasses of beer nicked from a pub.

One of the girls got on my bike making joking remarks about wanting a ride on it - two others I could see out of my peripheral vision on the other side and I showed a side of myself that's thankfully rarely seen. Let's just say she didn't stay on my Kalkhoff for long and didn't understand how I managed to remove her from it so easily without the bike going over or her getting hurt at all ! She then grabbed my hat, lashed out at me and threw it on the floor in a petulant rage - thankfully the guys got the girls under control but they were screaming abuse. Case of judgement being impaired about what's acceptable behaviour and what basically amounts to threatening. But it's easy to see how people wind up getting intimidated and nervous at those machines sometimes.

If they did have any intention of pulling a stunt on my dosh the little altercation actually distracted them. I was just relieved to get away with my £££ - and my bike - and even got my hat back . In that case it was impaired judgement on their part approaching me like that at an ATM (and I was feeling especially vulnerable with a lot of money on me) but no losses incurred. It's funny I used to use cashpoints in London a lot at night and never had any bother but for some reason on provincial High Streets there seems to be a greater than average chance of aggro.

... and of course ... not a sign of a police car or foot patrol anywhere. As per usual.

 

[the_killjoy]

The reverse PIN number doesn't work, I have a palindromic number

 

[funkylyn]

Hmmm....well IF it worked it might be good, however I cant see any way that it could possibly work, not only because of the reverse numbers......my number in reverse will probably be someone else's actual number, plus to think that the police have the resources, never mind the will,to go racing around the country protecting ATM's is never going to happen.

Sorry, Mountainsport, but if you have really heard that then it must surely be an 'urban myth' .......

OR, I tell you what......you tell me when you fancy trying it, make sure you withdraw a decent amount of money, I will come along and rob you......but, dont worry, you set off the alarm to notify the police and lets see if I get away with all your lovely dosh......couple of grand would be nice.....

Lynda

 

[andy slow coach]

I don't think it's true either, if your number is 1771 then how would the police know if you had entered it as 1771 or 1771 ?

 

[Scimitar]

Strikes me as another urban myth.
I wonder if Grannie's still up on that roof?

 

[mountainsport]

I don't think it's true either, if your number is 1771 then how would the police know if you had entered it as 1771 or 1771 ?

Andy that is so clever of you to think up that which is also true and a very good point.

Mountainsport.

 

[flecc]

Yes, both parts are urban myths, a reversed PIN like 4321 in place of 1234 will not issue cash. The PIN has to be precisely right.

 

[carpetbagger]

Yes, both parts are urban myths, a reversed PIN like 4321 in place of 1234 will not issue cash. The PIN has to be precisely right.

Even if it did,or was programmed into the machine to work,it would soon be kicked into touch as the police would be flying round to every machine going to people who had got their pin mixed up......

 

[rog_london]

Yes, both parts are urban myths, a reversed PIN like 4321 in place of 1234 will not issue cash. The PIN has to be precisely right.

Oddly, there is a grain of truth in that it's a system actually used in the security/burglar alarm business (though by no means is it universal).

The idea is that if someone is being forced to enter premises under duress he/she can unlock the alarm system using the reversed PIN and all appears to be well to the crook - but many alarm systems are linked to a central alarm station and the reversed PIN will have a top-priority panic call to the police within a few seconds.

This system is fairly common in banks and retail stores, high-value warehouses and such. Crooks have been known to kidnap staff with keys to effect an out-of-hours access to such premises.

Not ATMs though - as far as I know.

Rog.

 

[grldtnr]

Funky ,
that's just a bit too close to importuning a honest chap!

Hmmm....well IF it worked it might be good, however I cant see any way that it could possibly work, not only because of the reverse numbers......my number in reverse will probably be someone else's actual number, plus to think that the police have the resources, never mind the will,to go racing around the country protecting ATM's is never going to happen.

Sorry, Mountainsport, but if you have really heard that then it must surely be an 'urban myth' .......

OR, I tell you what......you tell me when you fancy trying it, make sure you withdraw a decent amount of money, I will come along and rob you......but, dont worry, you set off the alarm to notify the police and lets see if I get away with all your lovely dosh......couple of grand would be nice.....

Lynda

 

[Scimitar]

Oddly, there is a grain of truth in that it's a system actually used in the security/burglar alarm business (though by no means is it universal).

The idea is that if someone is being forced to enter premises under duress he/she can unlock the alarm system using the reversed PIN and all appears to be well to the crook - but many alarm systems are linked to a central alarm station and the reversed PIN will have a top-priority panic call to the police within a few seconds.

This system is fairly common in banks and retail stores, high-value warehouses and such. Crooks have been known to kidnap staff with keys to effect an out-of-hours access to such premises.

Not ATMs though - as far as I know.

Rog.

The difficulty with so-call "Tiger Kidnappings" like this is; if you are the manager whose familiy is being held at gun or knifepoint - how important is a bundle of money or goods compared to the lives of your family members?
I'm absolutely sure I wouldn't be putting in a reverse PIN to tip anyone off.

 

[lectureral]

No disrespect Mountainsport but I don't know why people post these breathless bits of advice - they've nearly always been knocking around for ages, a lot of us have seen them before and know they are not true

snopes.com: Reverse PIN Panic Code

I do recommend browsing Snopes to inoculate oneself from believing and passing on this sort of myth.

 

[JuicyBike]

I guess a second "Panic Pin", unrelated to the "Normal Pin", issued with every card, might work.

But I'm getting more than a little "pinned off" and long for a return to the days of simple trading. Bring on the high street Sheep Dispenser...

 

[andy slow coach]

Bring on the high street Sheep Dispenser...

Is that 100% sheep or 50% sheep and 50% horse ?

 

[funkylyn]

Funky ,
that's just a bit too close to importuning a honest chap!

Hmmm.......well, although Ive never been averse to the occasional 'importuning' of the odd man, I dont think that would ever be the case with Mountainsport as I have always presumed that he is a she and, believe me, I have never ever been tempted to 'importune ' a woman

So, honestly, I was only after the money

Lynda

 

[grldtnr]

You could do Luncheon vouchers a.k.a the famous madam Cynthia Paine,she counted MP,s and High court judges as her clients,and get free legal advice into the bargain!!!!!

 

[Old_Dave]

believe me, I have never ever been tempted to 'importune ' a woman

Ho hum... thats that one out of the window then

 

[funkylyn]

You could do Luncheon vouchers a.k.a the famous madam Cynthia Paine,she counted MP,s and High court judges as her clients,and get free legal advice into the bargain!!!!!

Hmmm......I dont think so, I can just imagine what my boyfriend would think of that lol

Whereas he certainly wouldnt be averse to sharing a few grand from mountainsport at an ATM......all in the cause of research of course

Lynda