June 27, 20187 yr So I've read all the threads, thought I'd gather all the information in one place and hopefully crack it. Button combos: Info and + displays wheel size and 4 letters eg CABA 27.5. Can't change anything Walk and info shows "dat clr" but no way to confirm it I've found. Power button won't shut the bike down when in this screen so maybe that's involved Plus and backlight button shows a 0 which can be changed from 1 to 4. Seems to just be backlight settings of some kind Backlight plus info shows settings eco to tour, this decides what setting to boot up on Photos of controller here http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/looking-for-help-derestricting-carrera-vulcan-pics-included.29745/ An interesting manual found in a german forum, shows assembly of the bike and wiring http://srsuntour-files.dbap.de/_public/SRSUNTOUR-DOWNLOAD-AREA/E-BIKE-Service/ATS/DE-Workshop-Book-ZEG.pdf I am stuck at this point, going to see if any dongle companies know anything.
June 27, 20187 yr Wishing you luck. Some have mentioned on here that they have spoken to people who say it CAN be derestricted, but no details on how to :-( It would be nice to eek out another 3-4 mph
June 27, 20187 yr https://lazylegs.co.uk/index.php Check out thttp://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/how-to-add-a-throttle-to-a-carrera-vengeance-e-spec.31483/ website on above link and he is on this forum
June 27, 20187 yr Author Wishing you luck. Some have mentioned on here that they have spoken to people who say it CAN be derestricted, but no details on how to :-( It would be nice to eek out another 3-4 mph Yep I've read those. I've asked suntour themselves and they just say it's not possible, although I have to say I don't believe it, the way it cuts is definitely software controlled. Tbh even making the walk assist go faster would be nice. Worst case scenario needs a controller swap which would basically turn it into a completely different bike, best case an unintuitive button combo that noone has figured out yet. Maybe there is a special developer display, or a programming lead that goes in the charge port on the bars. After coming from a bike with no limitations I have to say it's kind of disappointing and amazing at the same time, love the bike and how it rides, hate the limit I hit just as I'm enjoying it. That said this is a hill monster and a well made machine so I'll be sticking by it either way (vulcan)
June 27, 20187 yr Author https://lazylegs.co.uk/index.php Check out thttp://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/how-to-add-a-throttle-to-a-carrera-vengeance-e-spec.31483/ website on above link and he is on this forum Just read this. I spoke to this guy on facebook group the vulcan throttle is still in development i believe. I will probably grab one when it arrives as I miss that option too
June 28, 20187 yr Author I noticed under the decal of the hub is a hole. If you peel it you can see inside the hub. Anyone know what this is for?
June 28, 20187 yr I noticed under the decal of the hub is a hole. If you peel it you can see inside the hub. Anyone know what this is for? Ideal to let water in if left uncovered.
June 28, 20187 yr Author Ideal to let water in if left uncovered. Don't worry it's covered now, just never seen that on any hub electric or not
July 4, 20187 yr Author Was reading about a bike called the green mover today. This bike also uses a suntour system. It seems there is a programming tool that plugs between the motor wires and allows things to be altered. So if it's the same for these we need to acquire or invent something to change the controller settings. In the case of the green mover it was only available to the dealer
July 4, 20187 yr Was reading about a bike called the green mover today. This bike also uses a suntour system. It seems there is a programming tool that plugs between the motor wires and allows things to be altered. So if it's the same for these we need to acquire or invent something to change the controller settings. In the case of the green mover it was only available to the dealer There is a grey market for everything ! Just need to find it..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
July 4, 20187 yr Author There is a grey market for everything ! Just need to find it..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Or some smart bugger to make it
July 4, 20187 yr Author Hmm after further reading it seems the tool is for the goswiss version and not the suntour. So we're still in the dark
July 5, 20187 yr I think we may have a lead for software for SUNTOUR HESC https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/index.php?threads/bulls-e45-einstellen-mit-interface.40085/
July 6, 20187 yr Author I think we may have a lead for software for SUNTOUR HESC https://www.pedelecforum.de/forum/index.php?threads/bulls-e45-einstellen-mit-interface.40085/ This is what I thought apparently there are 2 versions. Could be wrong though
July 12, 20187 yr Author Ok a little update. I spotted on YouTube comments that someone managed to break the limit by cutting a green wire, but that his bike developed a fault and broke soon after. Not exactly a reliable source or desired result, but it's something lol.
July 13, 20187 yr anon4 Tbh even making the walk assist go faster would be nice. TBH I'm struggling with my settings trying to get the walk-assist to slow down a bit, on the flat I have to hurry to keep up.
July 13, 20187 yr Author anon4 Tbh even making the walk assist go faster would be nice. TBH I'm struggling with my settings trying to get the walk-assist to slow down a bit, on the flat I have to hurry to keep up. I had some talk with him and he said green wire between battery and pedals. So I carefully removed the green wire from the connector and tried. I had my doubts, the bike didn't have any errors but it went really slow not fast. He may have meant a different wire as there's a couple that go past that area but haven't played any further yet. I'd guess the one that goes to the motor but there is no quick connector and the one on the frame is sealed so would involve cutting to test. As for throttle wait for the lazylegs kit to be released
July 13, 20187 yr Author Also he said he crashed and the wire was already damaged. Maybe he'd damaged something else
July 15, 20187 yr Author So I've got the full story. The guy disconnected the green wire from the pedal sensor. This is the torque sensor. He claims this made his bike go really fast but then he got an error code. In my case the bike went really slow when I did this so total opposite experience
July 23, 20187 yr Author I have an idea to derestrict the bike without having to damage the original setup in case you want to go back. You remove display, controller, pedal sensor, basically the guts of the bike but leave the motor in place. You may have to cut the battery wires and add connectors for those as I think they are just soldered. Basically buy the connector the same as the motor, I believe this is the one https://www.e-bike-technologies.de/index.php/en/cables/motor-cables/higo-l1019-detail Buy a suitable unrestricted controller, display and pedal assist to match, solder connectors onto the motor wires and battery terminals to match the controllers inputs. Then plug everything in and fit it. You will now have a speed configurable setup with the original motor and battery. Its a fair bit of modification but it's the only workaround I can see working. Of course this sort of tinkering will void the warranty, there is some sort of anti vandal style paint under the controller which I believe is to show tamper evidence. I may try this, I may not. Tempted to just buy a second 1500w toy as the police don't seem to care here as long as you ride sensibly...
July 25, 20187 yr Gents, Long story short - I have been in touch with SR Suntor regarding this and was directed to look at the software to re calibrate the speed limit. Do we know the make and model of the controller in carrera crossfire e?
July 25, 20187 yr Author Gents, Long story short - I have been in touch with SR Suntor regarding this and was directed to look at the software to re calibrate the speed limit. Do we know the make and model of the controller in carrera crossfire e? EBCT14-SR3604PHC-485-27.5, the 27.5 can be replaced by whatever wheelsize it is
July 25, 20187 yr Thats seems like SR Suntour proprietary part number. We need to know the controller's manufacturer name and model number so we could connect with the manufacturer directly or search for calibration software on dark web!!
July 25, 20187 yr You will have to open the controller up and look on the pcb board edge as often it is there you will find the manufacturer website printed.
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