Canopy anyone?

funkylyn

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Yes, yes....I can see that Alan.....bike...balloon....Im not a number......this shouldnt be beyond someone with your imagination......Sort of portable garage........can you get mini hot air balloons ?
Pics soon ?

Lynda :)
 

kitchenman

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I hope you've got something to tie it to because it'll blow away if you're not careful. It could even take off - now there's an idea!
Thanks. Hadn't considered that. I may need to park on grass so that I can get tent pegs in to secure it down. I'll find an open space and do some wind tests. Should make for an interesting video!
 

kitchenman

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They want a flag? I'll give them flags! ...
Used single tent poles as flag poles and went for flags front and back! ... Here the flags have been stopped from flapping using velcro while I ride to the testing ground:
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As the point of having a flag is to be noticed then these babies work as they are. Don't really need to bare the flag. But in the interest of experimentation here is a short clip:

STREET MACHINE/FLAG TEST - YouTube

Tent poles are excellent as flag poles as they are hollow and allow for cord to be used as a lanyard. I didn't do this and you can see in the clip what happens if your pole comes loose.
 

kitchenman

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I hope you've got something to tie it to because it'll blow away if you're not careful. It could even take off - now there's an idea!
I got it up and was about to secure it to the ground but I was interrupted by a little boy and a bear:
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Fortunately no animals or children were injured!
 

kitchenman

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Should make for an interesting video!
STREET MACHINE/CANOPY TEST - YouTube

Things I think I need to sort out are:
Add more kick stands. At least two are needed perhaps four to stop it all falling over.
Modify the tent pole mounts so that they are wider apart thus reducing the height of the apex. This should mean that the tent is big enough and more stable.
Sort out a lanyard mount for the tent poles so they don't come out ...
 

kitchenman

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Alan I can see the appeal of a canopy on a recumbent, almost making it into a velomobile perhaps. It would be advantageous if you could do something that had aerodynamic benefit and reduced the recumbents aerodynamic drag.
Starting to thing about an aerodynamic canopy. Seems to me that what is needed is a big hollow transparent tube. A bit like a tea pot handle so that there is no flapping and nowhere for air to get trapped ...
 

piotrmacheta

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Great ideas, I think the tent idea would work on a trike as it's wider and lower. In fact Hase have it sorted with their Klimax 2K (5K for speedy types) - it's a perfect compromise but as usual, only for the deep pockets.
 

kitchenman

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steveindenmark

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I know a couple who are travelling around the world on their Moto Guzzi at the moment.

They have rigged a canopy on their motorbike and cannot speak highly enough of it. They like it so much not because it keeps the rain off them but because it keeps the sun off them.



Kitchenman...I am sorry to say this but your flags leave a lot to be desired.

I used to have an ICE Trike and a Bacchetta Giro 26, both were very low to the floor and so I thought a flag was needed.

I conducted my own tests and the very first thing I found out was that the size of the flag matters. Too small and you do not see it and too big you get a lot of drag. There is quite a fine line. I am surprised you could move forward with 2 shopping bags, it is a bit like a drag racer throwing out his parachute.

Colour is very important. I found day glow orange was best during bright daylight but dayglo yellow was better on cloudy days and at dusk.

Material is crutial because as most of the bike flags you can buy disintegrate at an alarming speed. They fade almost as fast. I am have lots of orange and yellow day glow offcuts from sails. The material was designed for storm sails to be used in the Southern Ocean and so is the best material you can get for bike flags.

I am fortunate enough to have all the technical software to design flags and a sail cutting laser to cut the cloth etc, etc. I used to be asked for flags and now they are being ridden all over the world.

You would think something like a flag is simple but it can get quite complicated.

Day Glo orange and yellow vests are possibly the best material you can to make your flags with. Make them triangular, abput 50cm long and 15cm deep. I found that is the best size to make them fish tail.

You can also buy small circular kites on e bay that let the wind through are bright and move a lot. They are fun and good.



Steve
 
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kitchenman

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Thats for that Steve. I do like your flag and its in my colour as well! ..:)
Great canopy. I'm thinking of something similar for my next test. Just need to make sure I choose my materials carefully. Although as I like to use things in my house or in the skip at work I am limiting my choice somewhat ...should be interesting ..
 

steveindenmark

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Alan if and when you decide to make a canopy get in touch with me and I will help. In fact if you make the frame, I will make the canopy for you. No charge.

Steve
 

kitchenman

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Alan if and when you decide to make a canopy get in touch with me and I will help. In fact if you make the frame, I will make the canopy for you. No charge.

Steve
No sooner said than done! ...

STREET MACHINE/TENT POLE CANOPY COMMUTE - YouTube

Not quite ready for the canopy yet but have some ideas that I want to try. Obviously I'll video the various attempts. Would be great to get some help! ....

I rode the 15 miles to work this morning in heavy rain with the tent poles attached. Time was good. The addition of the poles and the mounting brackets add about 1kg. Normally I take about 1kg of food so I sacrificed that this morning.
 

kitchenman

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Things I think I need to sort out are:
Add more kick stands. At least two are needed perhaps four to stop it all falling over.
Added a bracket on the lhs of my bike so that I can mount another telescopic tripod leg. This gives me some stability which I hope will stop the bike from falling over when I through a tent over it...
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Also , I can now do this:
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