Can these really be ebikes?

[Ettica]

Browsing around the winternet (it's flipping cold here!) I came across this chinese manufacturers website.

ANNAD--Hangzhou ANNAD Electric Bike Co., Ltd

Must admit they do look ....er .... like ordinary bikes! but can they really be ebikes?

 

[jazper53]

Browsing around the winternet (it's flipping cold here!) I came across this chinese manufacturers website.

ANNAD--Hangzhou ANNAD Electric Bike Co., Ltd

Must admit they do look ....er .... like ordinary bikes! but can they really be ebikes?

A fully integrated set up with only a rear hub to give it away, maybe this one will appeal to the lycra clad types

 

[johnc461165]

Browsing around the winternet (it's flipping cold here!) I came across this chinese manufacturers website.

ANNAD--Hangzhou ANNAD Electric Bike Co., Ltd

Must admit they do look ....er .... like ordinary bikes! but can they really be ebikes?

It's cold here in Shevington not far from you

They are just normal bikes

 

[Ettica]

Snowing again John. I've tried getting up Back lane after a deluge of snow, it's not easy is it? lol
My brother recently had to sleep in his car overnight on the car park in front to the Post Office because he couldn't even get up the brow to get to Back lane. The post office manager kindly offered him a cup of tea in the morning. Nice people in Shevvy! lol

 

[flecc]

They are electric, battery in the down tube and one of Keyde's very small rear hub motors

 

[johnc461165]

Thanks Ettica, you must call in Shevvy Con club in the summer 5 E Bikers in there we will offer you something warmer, you might have to walk home though

 

[johnc461165]

They are electric, battery in the down tube and one of Keyde's very small rear hub motors

Must say flecc it doesn't look possible from their photos.

 

[Ettica]

Thanks Ettica, you must call in Shevvy Con club in the summer 5 E Bikers in there we will offer you something warmer, you might have to walk home though

Sounds great John. Will do.
Blimey 5 ebikers, and me and my wife make 7. Shevvy the ebike hotspot of the North West?

 

[geostorm]

A fully integrated set up with only a rear hub to give it away, maybe this one will appeal to the lycra clad types

Ask Alberto C. he supposed to have ridden similar in Tour de France at one stage......

 

[bigroy]

they are electric if you look closely,

 

[flecc]

Ask Alberto C. he supposed to have ridden similar in Tour de France at one stage......

Never happened, it was just a smear. The motor noise from all the compact and hidden systems is unmistakeable, especially the downtube crank motor that was implied to have been used. Apart from anything else, it's too slow!

Statement from Cancellara about the accusation- “It’s so stupid I’m speechless, I’ve never had batteries on my bike.”

 

[KirstinS]

Sorry , not convinced at all. That looks like a gearshift cable to me which runs to rear mech

Also things don't stack up . Weight is 11kg

The smallest keyde motor is 2kg, the battery is around same watt hour as my 36v 9ah which weighs 3.4kg. As its 33v and no case - lets be generous and say battery is 3kg. So 5kg just for motor and battery

No way is the rest of that bike 6kg !

 

[flecc]

Must say flecc it doesn't look possible from their photos.

They can even be more stealthy if using the Gruber-Assist motor which fits in the seat tube and drives the pedal shaft:

Gruber-Assist equipped bike

 

[KirstinS]

Yes flecc but the website states 250w rwd keyde. And gruber is only 200w I believe ?

 

[fa001313]

11 kg is indeed a bit on the bright side, I think.
But the motor only weights 2kg and the Keyde seat post battery (not the battery used here) only 1.3 kg according to their specs (http://www.keyde.com/?do=product&lang=en&event=view&ids=63).

So they now how to make a lightweight setup.

 

[johnc461165]

I think I agree with flecc now having magnified the photo, would be nice to see the other side of the bike showing power cable.

 

[KirstinS]

Hmm, the post battery is only 24v and 200-300wh (whatever that means ! Surely it's 200 or 300?)

So if 300wh at 36v is correct then must weigh more

I'll concede these could be electric but the numbers still don't stack up for me anyway

 

[jackhandy]

Tears at battery replacement time, I suspect - Downtube integrated & unconventional voltage to boot

 

[Deleted member 4366]

They're definitely electric - all the Keyde light-weight stuff. Quick Cyclezee Get some, they'll sell like hot cakes.

 

[flecc]

Hmm, the post battery is only 24v and 200-300wh (whatever that means ! Surely it's 200 or 300?)

So if 300wh at 36v is correct then must weigh more

I'll concede these could be electric but the numbers still don't stack up for me anyway

Definitely electric, but I agree on some of the numbers. Battery capacities are very flexible anyway, they depend on the discharge rate they are quoted at, no capacity number is an absolute.

For example, one test of a 37 volt 10 Ah battery on a throttle e-bike at different consumption rates resulted in 10 Ah at the lowest rate and 7 Ah at the highest rate, so that's from 259 Wh to 370 Wh, depending on usage rate.
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