Sprint v. Torq
It's great with the delimiter off - 22 mph on the flat and hill climbing greatly improved, but it uses the juice.
When the battery was new 10 months ago (done 500 miles all told) I got 28 miles along flat roads with gentle, very gentle assistance except for a last massive hill 1 km long about 7% grade - very hard work pedalling, brings me almost to my knees. The bike had not been delimited then.
The riding position for me (see my profile) is a bit too much 'weight on arms' causing 'handlebar palsy' after a few minutes. So I fixed the throttle and made it 'sticky' by freeing the allen key screw and forcing the rubber grip against the end of the h'bar (interior). I can now ride one 'right' handed.
To rest the right hand is easy because no controls are affected.
The front forks are a hell-of-a rough ride. I've messed about with tyre pressures with little respite .
Now the Sprint 7 and ME:
It will only do 15.5 mph so I don't have to look over my shoulder for 'coppers'.
Actually I've caught it out in favourable circumstances (whether wind or down-grade I'm not sure) doing nearly 17 mph (unassisted) with the motor still running.
Up hills it is much easier than the Torq. My nemesis hill 10% or even 11% for 750 metres can be managed without a rest at about 10/11 mph in bottom gear (39 inches - same as the Torq now) so I must be getting more from the motor probably because of the motor's internal gearing. It is still a work out for me but not exhausting, just tiring.
The riding position is much better (built for comfort not for speed). That's because the Head tube is much higher than the Torq and there may yet be a little height adjustment in the Quill type head stem.
Gears are slick on the move or stationary: an advantage in traffic if you have not kept awake to the situation.
If you are a 'foggie' the step through is an added advanatage for those of us who can no longer get their leg over the saddle. My shins are pitted with scars from mounting the Torq.
The suspension is ACE:
I have not had it long enough to have a view of range but after 20 miles and that hill the indicator at stationary was still on green.
Am I convinced? I'm looking for a Sprint 7 to replace my Torq which is for sale again.
If you feel, reading these critiques, you'd like a very good (done less than 500 miles) lightly used Torq 10 months old send me a private message. This one could be set up just right for you with quids worth of extras.
I was surprised that the Torq gave the rider so much assistance when starting on steep hills (that's 1 in 15 - 6.66%, to me): it's off in a flash.
So is the Sprint: much the same.
You can't change the rider's gearing on the Sprint hub without affecting the other end of the range by the same degree (e.g. changing the rear sprocket).
But I have modified the Torq to 44 chainring x 12 to 32 cassette with an Alivio Rear Mech. Just like the Forza/Forte. So the gearing is much the same as the standard Sprint. I need all the help I can get on serious hills and in that respect the Sprint has the edge over the Torq for me bacause of the motor's built in gearing.
If you are a strong biker and can keep it going at 12 mph the Torq night just win it for you on the real hills and on the flat.
Cheers
Peter
I'll tell you about My Torq and ME first of all:BY PETE
I tried my wife's new Sprint 7 with a fresh/new battery (Lithium)
Hi pete
how would you rate the performance of sprint 7 say compaired to the torq which i have i am looking out for a second bike ie is it a good hill climber i think it is a bit more heavy then the torq does it accelerate better then the torq. cheers pete.NIGEL
It's great with the delimiter off - 22 mph on the flat and hill climbing greatly improved, but it uses the juice.
When the battery was new 10 months ago (done 500 miles all told) I got 28 miles along flat roads with gentle, very gentle assistance except for a last massive hill 1 km long about 7% grade - very hard work pedalling, brings me almost to my knees. The bike had not been delimited then.
The riding position for me (see my profile) is a bit too much 'weight on arms' causing 'handlebar palsy' after a few minutes. So I fixed the throttle and made it 'sticky' by freeing the allen key screw and forcing the rubber grip against the end of the h'bar (interior). I can now ride one 'right' handed.
To rest the right hand is easy because no controls are affected.
The front forks are a hell-of-a rough ride. I've messed about with tyre pressures with little respite .
Now the Sprint 7 and ME:
It will only do 15.5 mph so I don't have to look over my shoulder for 'coppers'.
Actually I've caught it out in favourable circumstances (whether wind or down-grade I'm not sure) doing nearly 17 mph (unassisted) with the motor still running.
Up hills it is much easier than the Torq. My nemesis hill 10% or even 11% for 750 metres can be managed without a rest at about 10/11 mph in bottom gear (39 inches - same as the Torq now) so I must be getting more from the motor probably because of the motor's internal gearing. It is still a work out for me but not exhausting, just tiring.
The riding position is much better (built for comfort not for speed). That's because the Head tube is much higher than the Torq and there may yet be a little height adjustment in the Quill type head stem.
Gears are slick on the move or stationary: an advantage in traffic if you have not kept awake to the situation.
If you are a 'foggie' the step through is an added advanatage for those of us who can no longer get their leg over the saddle. My shins are pitted with scars from mounting the Torq.
The suspension is ACE:
I have not had it long enough to have a view of range but after 20 miles and that hill the indicator at stationary was still on green.
Am I convinced? I'm looking for a Sprint 7 to replace my Torq which is for sale again.
If you feel, reading these critiques, you'd like a very good (done less than 500 miles) lightly used Torq 10 months old send me a private message. This one could be set up just right for you with quids worth of extras.
I was surprised that the Torq gave the rider so much assistance when starting on steep hills (that's 1 in 15 - 6.66%, to me): it's off in a flash.
So is the Sprint: much the same.
You can't change the rider's gearing on the Sprint hub without affecting the other end of the range by the same degree (e.g. changing the rear sprocket).
But I have modified the Torq to 44 chainring x 12 to 32 cassette with an Alivio Rear Mech. Just like the Forza/Forte. So the gearing is much the same as the standard Sprint. I need all the help I can get on serious hills and in that respect the Sprint has the edge over the Torq for me bacause of the motor's built in gearing.
If you are a strong biker and can keep it going at 12 mph the Torq night just win it for you on the real hills and on the flat.
Cheers
Peter
