Brexit, for once some facts.

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Although taxing the economically active (individuals or companies) in the teeth of a pandemic while (predictably) leaving the inactive (entitled pensioners sitting on too much brick and mortar, property portfolios, myself in part included) and massive tax havens alone seem the most retrograde thing I've yet seen from this government.
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well i got some secret news that the dwp is planing a strike any day now via pcs as $hitting it when they cut the £20 a week and furlough ending they no longer feel safe inflicting there bs and conditionality.

im on jsa so got 36p so i should now need budgeting advice how to spend this massive amount of money and the bus fair is £4 to receive this advice.


 

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well i got some secret news that the dwp is planing a strike any day now via pcs as $hitting it when they cut the £20 a week and furlough ending they no longer feel safe inflicting there bs and conditionality.

im on jsa so got 36p so i should now need budgeting advice how to spend this massive amount of money and the bus fair is £4 to receive this advice.


Get a job.
 

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Regardless the other aspects of the story, it is obvious that UK is not going to get a fab. And UK motor manufacturing is seriously affected by chip shortages. (Not that the fab will be operating in the relevant timescale.)

Intel’s CEO Pat Gelsinger on Tuesday said he would be willing to pour up to €80bn (£68.8bn, $94.7bn) into its semiconductor fabs in Europe to increase capacity over the next decade.

He added that the chip behemoth's Ireland factory would start making semiconductor components for carmakers.

Chipzilla is hoping to expand its chip manufacturing operations in Europe amid the global semiconductor shortage. Intel is looking to build fabrication facilities in France, Germany, Belgium, Poland, or the Netherlands, and is expected to announce by the end of the year where it hopes to put two plants on the continent.

“A total project of €80bn euros over the next decade would be a catalyst for the semiconductor industry,” Gelsinger said at this year’s Munich Auto Show.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/08/intel_eu_investment/
 

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At one stage Vietnam was held up as the way to handle covid. Seems there is no perfect way.
Vietnam's present situation goes to show that preventative vigilance alone can't stop covid. Sooner or later, a more infectious variant is going through simple protections and precautions. At the moment, the only hope is more doses of the AZ vaccine.
worldometer: Vietnam

daily cases: 12,680
daily death: 434

The wave started in late June, early July and seems to peak at the moment.
 
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Vietnam's present situation goes to show that preventative vigilance alone can't stop covid. Sooner or later, a more infectious variant is going through simple protections and precautions. At the moment, the only hope is more doses of the AZ vaccine.
worldometer: Vietnam

daily cases: 12,680
daily death: 434

The wave started in late June, early July and seems to peak at the moment.
Makes me wonder what will NZ's (and others that went down isolation route) situation be in a couple of years time.
Lack of exposure reduces societies defences yet heightens anti vax sentiments.??? We all know our situation sure isnt great but seems governments are between a rock and a hard place. Worldometer now has UK 24th in deaths per million World wide.. Vietnam still way below that.
 
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Vietnam's present situation goes to show that preventative vigilance alone can't stop covid. Sooner or later, a more infectious variant is going through simple protections and precautions. At the moment, the only hope is more doses of the AZ vaccine.
worldometer: Vietnam

daily cases: 12,680
daily death: 434

The wave started in late June, early July and seems to peak at the moment.
But we now have the solution .. its called vaccination. And it is working. The figures are staggering about the numbers globally . Remember this is a product Which only became widely licenced for use about 9 months ago, and is still ramping up production , but 40% of the GLOBAL population have had a at least a jab. Very few jabs were done anywhere before March.. A combination of sensible social distancing protocol s, mark wearing and aggressive production and distribution of vaccines can win this war for us.
 

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The sun has set on our European existence.
O, it's lovely roamin' in the gloamin'!


Three has become the latest UK mobile network to reintroduce EU roaming fees, in another post-Brexit setback for customers traveling abroad.

A flat £2 daily charge when roaming within an EU country will apply to customers who are new or upgrading from October 1. The changes will not come into effect until May 23 2022.

The operator joins EE and Vodafone who have recently announced the return of roaming charges. O2 will continue to offer free roaming across the EU and in the United States, but only on some "Plus Plans" as an extra add-on.

Before the U.K. formally exited the European Union, mobile customers generally didn't have to worry about roaming charges when using their phone in the EU, with most phone tariffs counting calls, texts, and data used in EU countries as equivalent to domestic use since 2017.

However, when the EU trade deal was signed in December 2020, mobile operators were once again able to charge customers when traveling in Europe with "transparent and reasonable rates."

Originally, EE, O2, Three, and Vodafone, representing the largest mobile operators in the U.K., stated they had no plans to reintroduce roaming charges after Brexit, but all have since announced changes, some under a "fair use" clause.
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/09/three-brings-back-eu-roaming-charges/
 

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Makes me wonder what will NZ's (and others that went down isolation route) situation be in a couple of years time.
Lack of exposure reduces societies defences yet heightens anti vax sentiments.??? We all know our situation sure isnt great but seems governments are between a rock and a hard place. Worldometer now has UK 24th in deaths per million World wide.. Vietnam still way below that.
Zlatan, my answer to Woosh, is directly applicable to your post as well. The name of the game was to batten down the hatches until a vaccine was available ... and now it is. NZ and Australia can vaccinate their entire populations in a matter of weeks with current production capacity.. Vietnams problem is that it just doesn't have the infrastructure. I referred previously on this forum of travelling past two main hospitals in Saigon,dealing with children's illnesses. The crowds outside each were like a Wembley Cup final pouring in and out on steroids..or a Papal Audience in St Peters Square,..but much more boisterous.. .The only difference is that there was a child in the arms of each family group.
 

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But we now have the solution .. its called vaccination. And it is working. The figures are staggering about the numbers globally . Remember this is a product Which only became widely licenced for use about 9 months ago, and is still ramping up production , but 40% of the GLOBAL population have had a at least a jab. Very few jabs were done anywhere before March.. A combination of sensible social distancing protocol s, mark wearing and aggressive production and distribution of vaccines can win this war for us.
Have to say, I am hoping for much from Mark II vaccines which I strongly suspect are being developed.

Attributes such as:
Non-injection - maybe nasal spray?
Temperature tolerant - needing no cooler than domestic refrigerator coolth.
Better side effect profile.
Better/wider effectiveness.
Cheap.
Easy to make.
 

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Makes me wonder what will NZ's (and others that went down isolation route) situation be in a couple of years time.
Lack of exposure reduces societies defences yet heightens anti vax sentiments.??? We all know our situation sure isnt great but seems governments are between a rock and a hard place. Worldometer now has UK 24th in deaths per million World wide.. Vietnam still way below that.
I think that at the final analysis when we will have learned to live with covid, countries like NZ and Sweden will have fared far much better than we have done.
We spend far more than them per inhabitant and have more deaths and injuries. That is the result of our late decisions and putting everything into the hands of private contractors. You just look at the state of the travel PCR tests. Rumours have it that the amber and green lists will be junked at next revision (1st October).
As for the anti-vaxxers, I don't think more or fewer covid deaths is going to change one way or the other.
 

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But we now have the solution .. its called vaccination. And it is working. The figures are staggering about the numbers globally . Remember this is a product Which only became widely licenced for use about 9 months ago, and is still ramping up production , but 40% of the GLOBAL population have had a at least a jab. Very few jabs were done anywhere before March.. A combination of sensible social distancing protocol s, mark wearing and aggressive production and distribution of vaccines can win this war for us.
Vietnam can't buy enough doses for its population (97 millions). It has to rely on donations. The US gave it 3 million doses and another 1 millions more recently.
They have already been used up.
My guess it will have to endure another 6 months until it receives enough doses to vaccinate the whole population.
 
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But we now have the solution .. its called vaccination. And it is working. The figures are staggering about the numbers globally . Remember this is a product Which only became widely licenced for use about 9 months ago, and is still ramping up production , but 40% of the GLOBAL population have had a at least a jab. Very few jabs were done anywhere before March.. A combination of sensible social distancing protocol s, mark wearing and aggressive production and distribution of vaccines can win this war for us.
We shall see. Israel and uk with it's highly vaccinated populations are very much still inconclusive experiments.
 

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We shall see. Israel and uk with it's highly vaccinated populations are very much still inconclusive experiments.
Inconclusive indeed, I'm very aware of that locally. While the rest of the UK isn't doing very well on infections at the moment, much of London is doing better, often with low vaccination rates.

My own very large borough of Croydon which I've reported on before continues to perform comparably with national infections despite very low vaccination rates. In round numbers now:

UK vaccination rate: First 89%, Second 80%.

Croydon vaccination rate: First 67%, Second 59%.

Consistently now for a long time the 20 points or more vaccination deficit doesn't have a cost for us, despite the Delta variant long being very much present and our vaccination deficit being due to refuseniks, not shortages or lack of facilities.

There's so much we don't yet know about Covid-19.
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