Brexit, for once some facts.

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oldgroaner

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The Guardian@guardian


Five years on from the Brexit referendum, the result is clear: both unions are losing


Gerald Bell @GOldcodger

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This is true On the one side the EU have lost a troublesome devious lying waste of time country On the other side the UK has been taken hostage by the Tory Taliban and is walking around raggy arsed pleading for scraps pretending Brexit works just fine :cool:
 

oyster

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Just read this:

HS2 has sought support from across government to counter a growing number of protests, as the boss of the high-speed rail project said it was struggling to deal with direct action that had cost it £75m to date.

Mark Thurston, the chief executive of HS2, said “violent and disruptive” protests were spreading north and he had urged ministers to use “all the agencies of government” to help it.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/24/hs2-asks-government-help-rising-number-protests

That is a direct affront to everything - democracy, civil rights, everything. He is directly calling for use of MI5, MI6, the army, navy, air force. "All the agencies of government" is a call that is way, way, way beyond anything a public employee (direct or indirect) should ever say.

If he is too stupid to see it, he should be sacked. If he said it anyway, he should be sacked.
 
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brexit benefits, part the nine millionth:

UK Network Operator EE to Charge Customers for Roaming Within the EU
Thursday June 24, 2021 5:14 am PDT by Sami Fathi
U.K. mobile operator EE plans to charge customers almost $3 (£2) a day to use data roaming within the EU, a result of the United Kingdom's exit from the European Union, BBC reports.
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/24/ee-charge-customers-roaming-within-eu/
Only if you go over 25gb about 60 hours of video or a million emails.
 

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That is a direct affront to everything - democracy, civil rights, everything. He is directly calling for use of MI5, MI6, the army, navy, air force. "All the agencies of government" is a call that is way, way, way beyond anything a public employee (direct or indirect) should ever say.

If he is too stupid to see it, he should be sacked. If he said it anyway, he should be sacked.
Oh I don't know, those tactics worked during the miners' strike.
 

oyster

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Did you see the test and trace fiasco number 4234?

Almost 600 out of 691 tests have been given out but no-one knows what happened to them. Results never registered - if they have even been used. That is, of course, in millions.
 

oldgroaner

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Did you see the test and trace fiasco number 4234?

Almost 600 out of 691 tests have been given out but no-one knows what happened to them. Results never registered - if they have even been used. That is, of course, in millions.
It doesn't take a genius to work out people are liable to get a result they didn't want and bin the test rather than suffer the inconvenience of self isolation.
This could probably be used as a sort of poll as to how many more cases there are around in general circulation!
After all there must be a proportion who only collected the test because they felt they had Covid, plus of course those who can't refuse a freebie then dare not use it!
 

oyster

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It doesn't take a genius to work out people are liable to get a result they didn't want and bin the test rather than suffer the inconvenience of self isolation.
This could probably be used as a sort of poll as to how many more cases there are around in general circulation!
After all there must be a proportion who only collected the test because they felt they had Covid, plus of course those who can't refuse a freebie then dare not use it!
I suspect the biggest single factor among those who have actually used them is a negative result - no obvious reason, from the individual's point of view, to do anything.

It is staggering that this is ten tests per person that have been issued before someone noticed the low rate of reporting. Rather, before it somehow leaked out...
 

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