Are there any left (of the WH mob) who have not fallen ill with Covid-19?
(I think there are a few but a large proportion have at least tested positive.)
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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(I think there are a few but a large proportion have at least tested positive.)
Somewhat concerning when Covid-19 and brexit combine. Though the headline refers to builders, the reality goes far wider.
Builders run short of supplies as UK port holdups raise Brexit concerns
Tools and materials stuck in ports struggling to process surge in imports under Covid controls
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/07/builders-run-short-of-supplies-as-uk-port-holdups-raise-brexit-concerns
Builders run short of supplies as UK port holdups raise Brexit concerns
Tools and materials stuck in ports struggling to process surge in imports under Covid controls
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/07/builders-run-short-of-supplies-as-uk-port-holdups-raise-brexit-concerns
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When I read about Trump on Saturday night in South Georgia, I hoped he had retired to the island to watch penguins.
Then I started to worry about the penguins.
Funny they are colleagues.
Minister decries Millwall fans who booed players for taking a knee
James Cleverly says condemnation does not denote support for BLM’s agenda
A government minister has condemned as “completely wrong” Millwall fans who booed players for taking a knee at the weekend, while saying this did not denote support for the political aims of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement.
The comments by James Cleverly, a foreign office minister who was formerly the Conservative party chair, contrast with the views of George Eustice, the environment secretary, who declined to criticise the Millwall fans’ behaviour.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/07/minister-decries-millwall-fans-who-booed-players-for-taking-a-knee
I haven't seen the news for some days as I'm fed up of hearing the same old thing but my partner who stays glued tells me those having the vac jab will have to carry a card signifying such. Looks like the first step towards ID cards.
Luckily I won't have to carry one, I already know who I am
Luckily I won't have to carry one, I already know who I am
I wonder if the Vaccine will be called 'Dave' or 'Doris'
Plus how effecient will the central record keeping be like - esp in getting the correct booster jab 21 days later.
I've seen mix ups with patient names even in hospitals - esp older folk who sometimes go by their middle names or other familiar names. Wonder if it'll be GPs responsible for records.
www.healthcarebusinesstech.com
Plus how effecient will the central record keeping be like - esp in getting the correct booster jab 21 days later.
I've seen mix ups with patient names even in hospitals - esp older folk who sometimes go by their middle names or other familiar names. Wonder if it'll be GPs responsible for records.
Prevent patient identification errors
Sometimes, hospital staff confuse two patients for one another, or pull the wrong chart for a patient due to similar sounding names or illnesses. These patient identification errors can cause serio…
www.healthcarebusinesstech.com
If you work at a hospital in Wales, and get vaccinated as a front line worker there, but live in England, I very much doubt the record system will work flawlessly.I wonder if the Vaccine will be called 'Dave' or 'Doris'
Plus how effecient will the central record keeping be like - esp in getting the correct booster jab 21 days later.
I've seen mix ups with patient names even in hospitals - esp older folk who sometimes go by their middle names or other familiar names. Wonder if it'll be GPs responsible for records.
Prevent patient identification errors
Sometimes, hospital staff confuse two patients for one another, or pull the wrong chart for a patient due to similar sounding names or illnesses. These patient identification errors can cause serio…
I'd still like to know if having the jab means you are no longer asymptomatic meaning you can still pass covid on.
I look at it like this...if you want to paint your garden fence but don't want to risk getting paint on your hands you wear rubber gloves. Good, that's you sorted but when you go back inside you might grab the handle of the back door and contaminate it with the paint, also it follows anyone else touching the door handle also gets some paint on them EVEN if they themselves are wearing gloves.
This vaccination doesn't kill on contact, if fact it doesn't kill at all as such so it seems it could well be here forever.
I hear people saying they can't wait to go out and hug their friends and visit a packed & noisy pub again but surely that's what caused it to spread about in the first place, is this vaccination going to make it disappear ? I'm not seeing that myself.
I look at it like this...if you want to paint your garden fence but don't want to risk getting paint on your hands you wear rubber gloves. Good, that's you sorted but when you go back inside you might grab the handle of the back door and contaminate it with the paint, also it follows anyone else touching the door handle also gets some paint on them EVEN if they themselves are wearing gloves.
This vaccination doesn't kill on contact, if fact it doesn't kill at all as such so it seems it could well be here forever.
I hear people saying they can't wait to go out and hug their friends and visit a packed & noisy pub again but surely that's what caused it to spread about in the first place, is this vaccination going to make it disappear ? I'm not seeing that myself.
As one of the 50 hospital centres nationally with suitable refrigeration first to receive the Pfizer vaccine, our Croydon University Hospital received it's supply two days ago. Our GP centres are currently being organised to administer the injections so will presumably keep records locally initially.
The injections are due to start on the 14th for hospital and care staff and the over 80s. Since I'm 84 I'd expect to get a call shortly, I'll let you know. Under my previous GP I always got a 'flu jab phone call/message, but since he retired those haven't happened before I contacted them. However that may just be due to my acting early every year since the year I caught 'flu just before my 'flu jab appointment.
If you don't hear from me you'll know the Pfizer vaccine has bumped me off, so I'll wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Brexit Year now.
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I think you're more likely to bump the vaccine off than the other way round flecc
I doubt it, I can't stand the cold like today's 3 degrees C, so Pfizers 70 degrees below will be a clear winner.I think you're more likely to bump the vaccine off than the other way round flecc
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You'll have to get Nursey to tuck the spike somewhere first to warm it up a bit
Yes I think everyone wants to know that but its too early to tell at the moment. From what I have read although they can't say for sure they (they being health experts and not politicians) think its extremely likely that once vaccinated (both doses) you will no longer be asymptomatic.
I was watching Politics Live today and Richard Tice was one of the guests. He said that the PCR test that is being used in all the NHS labs is faulty as it produces so many false positive results. He is a politician and I don't think has a health background so I tend to take what someone like that says with a bucket load of salt, but does anyone know if there is any research done to back up his assertions?
I think (but don't know) that other countries using the PCR test would also have this problem (if it exists) there was no one on the programme today from a health background to challenge Richard Tice which I think was a mistake.
I think (but don't know) that other countries using the PCR test would also have this problem (if it exists) there was no one on the programme today from a health background to challenge Richard Tice which I think was a mistake.
Covid: Greater Manchester stops care home tests over accuracy fears
The rapid tests picked up five infections out of every 10 found by conventional lab tests.
www.bbc.co.uk
That article is referring to the Lateral flow tests not the PCR test. I think it has been made public for some time that the Lateral flow tests were fairly unreliable, but until I saw Tice mention that the PCR tests were also unreliable (according to him) I had not seen anything about that.Covid: Greater Manchester stops care home tests over accuracy fears
The rapid tests picked up five infections out of every 10 found by conventional lab tests.www.bbc.co.uk
ideal conditions for any test: high purity + high viral load.
Covid PCR gives between 2% to 29% false negatives.
That means that the test has between 71%-98% sensitivity.
The problem is the error is subject to interpretation.
The PCR test has very high specificity, so the errors are are predominantly false negatives.
It's true that the test is 70% accurate, but people like Tice prefers to think that the errors are all false positives instead of false positives + false negatives + indeterminate. The latter needs a second test.
In fact, the confidence in Covid PCR test is quite high.
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One community based study of 4653 close contacts of patients with covid-19 tested RT-PCR throat swabs every 48 hours during a 14 day quarantine period. Of 129 eventually diagnosed with covid-19 by RT-PCR, 92 (71.3%) had a positive test on the first throat swab, equating to a sensitivity of 71% in this lower prevalence, community setting.
The article is only a couple or three days old - Are you sure you're not confusing the two tests
"A standard coronavirus test - also known as a PCR test - misses fewer than 5% of infections.
It was already known that lateral flow tests were less sensitive - they miss about 50% of infections overall."
"A standard coronavirus test - also known as a PCR test - misses fewer than 5% of infections.
It was already known that lateral flow tests were less sensitive - they miss about 50% of infections overall."