I think that is being too optimistic, especially when our ruling class were too pro German, and would have used any excuse to come to terms.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Suspect they'd have more luck if Shergar were developing the vaccine...
and also this cartoon:
I wonder how many people believe that the EU would blockade NI?
BJ now accepts to fill in the EU food standard form so it's a non-argument.
How many people do not know that the NI Joint Committee has agreed a few changes (albeit small wording changes) to the WA?
Can brexiteers ever get anything right?
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Nadhim Zahawi on Question Time last night made himself look a right plonker
www.mirror.co.uk
"We're now doing 240,000 tests a day, but clearly there's more demand," he (Nadhim Zahawi) told Thursday's edition of the BBC programme.
Ms Bruce cut in, however, to point out: "You're not testing 240,000 people a day."
The Conservative politician said: "240,000 antigen tests a day at the moment. We plan to increase it to 500,000 by the end of October."
But Ms Bruce again cut in: "I'm sorry. The government's own figures, the latest figures, are that 81,000 people are being tested every day. That's the government's latest figures - not 240,000. That's the capacity."
Mr Zahawi said: "Well, the figures that I've got is 240,000...is the latest figures."
"Is what?" said the host. "The average of people being tested a day?"
The MP then u-turned, admitting: "No, this is the capacity."
Tory minister accused of falling for 'fantasy figure' in daily testing blunder
Business under-secretary Nadhim Zahawi U-turned during a fiery debate with BBC Question Time's host Fiona Bruce after incorrectly quoting the testing capacity figures instead of the actual daily tests done
www.mirror.co.uk
"We're now doing 240,000 tests a day, but clearly there's more demand," he (Nadhim Zahawi) told Thursday's edition of the BBC programme.
Ms Bruce cut in, however, to point out: "You're not testing 240,000 people a day."
The Conservative politician said: "240,000 antigen tests a day at the moment. We plan to increase it to 500,000 by the end of October."
But Ms Bruce again cut in: "I'm sorry. The government's own figures, the latest figures, are that 81,000 people are being tested every day. That's the government's latest figures - not 240,000. That's the capacity."
Mr Zahawi said: "Well, the figures that I've got is 240,000...is the latest figures."
"Is what?" said the host. "The average of people being tested a day?"
The MP then u-turned, admitting: "No, this is the capacity."
In the words of Jacob, stop the endless carping about not being able to obtain a test. The government has done a marvellous job.Nadhim Zahawi on Question Time last night made himself look a right plonker
Tory minister accused of falling for 'fantasy figure' in daily testing blunder
Business under-secretary Nadhim Zahawi U-turned during a fiery debate with BBC Question Time's host Fiona Bruce after incorrectly quoting the testing capacity figures instead of the actual daily tests done
"We're now doing 240,000 tests a day, but clearly there's more demand," he (Nadhim Zahawi) told Thursday's edition of the BBC programme.
Ms Bruce cut in, however, to point out: "You're not testing 240,000 people a day."
The Conservative politician said: "240,000 antigen tests a day at the moment. We plan to increase it to 500,000 by the end of October."
But Ms Bruce again cut in: "I'm sorry. The government's own figures, the latest figures, are that 81,000 people are being tested every day. That's the government's latest figures - not 240,000. That's the capacity."
Mr Zahawi said: "Well, the figures that I've got is 240,000...is the latest figures."
"Is what?" said the host. "The average of people being tested a day?"
The MP then u-turned, admitting: "No, this is the capacity."
Then the obvious next question was ... What are the bottlenecks and what are you doing about them?.Nadhim Zahawi on Question Time last night made himself look a right plonker
Tory minister accused of falling for 'fantasy figure' in daily testing blunder
Business under-secretary Nadhim Zahawi U-turned during a fiery debate with BBC Question Time's host Fiona Bruce after incorrectly quoting the testing capacity figures instead of the actual daily tests done
"We're now doing 240,000 tests a day, but clearly there's more demand," he (Nadhim Zahawi) told Thursday's edition of the BBC programme.
Ms Bruce cut in, however, to point out: "You're not testing 240,000 people a day."
The Conservative politician said: "240,000 antigen tests a day at the moment. We plan to increase it to 500,000 by the end of October."
But Ms Bruce again cut in: "I'm sorry. The government's own figures, the latest figures, are that 81,000 people are being tested every day. That's the government's latest figures - not 240,000. That's the capacity."
Mr Zahawi said: "Well, the figures that I've got is 240,000...is the latest figures."
"Is what?" said the host. "The average of people being tested a day?"
The MP then u-turned, admitting: "No, this is the capacity."
No - the next obvious question was: What were the bottlenecks? And what did you do about them?
Then "And just why do you now know? And Why did you do nothing?"
apparently, the problem is the handling of the sample containers. Their labels get ripped, smudged etc.
At the moment, we have too many contractors, nobody is blamed for the mess.
If I were to organise the tests, I would offer mainly home test kits, distributed by local pharmacists on regular prescriptions. The pharmacists will print the identification labels. The completed kits are taken back to the pharmacists where they will be collected in the normal way, processed by NHS labs.
The samples from key workers can then be prioritised at the labs.
At the moment, we have too many contractors, nobody is blamed for the mess.
If I were to organise the tests, I would offer mainly home test kits, distributed by local pharmacists on regular prescriptions. The pharmacists will print the identification labels. The completed kits are taken back to the pharmacists where they will be collected in the normal way, processed by NHS labs.
The samples from key workers can then be prioritised at the labs.
Of course, labelling pathology samples is a new challenge. They've never had to do that before.
Actually, that might be true for accountancy companies like Deloitte.
This is what happens when you appoint a Jockey to organise infection testing during a pandemic. I still can’t believe it, even when I see my own words on the screen.
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Talking of E-scooters which we were not, was it mentioned on here that the Gov have scrapped the official trial of the aforementioned because some people were seen riding them on the pavement ... no! surely not, as if.
I've seen some sights over the weeks of the sort of antics kids get up to on these things but yesterdays topped it all.
Two kids were riding straight down the middle of a busy main road going flat out, then one kid stood very still on the scooter platform took both his hands off and stretched his arms out crucifix style .. unbelievable.
Presumably you can wedge the throttle full on and leap off, what fun
I've seen some sights over the weeks of the sort of antics kids get up to on these things but yesterdays topped it all.
Two kids were riding straight down the middle of a busy main road going flat out, then one kid stood very still on the scooter platform took both his hands off and stretched his arms out crucifix style .. unbelievable.
Presumably you can wedge the throttle full on and leap off, what fun
Some useful ONS figures out. R number 1.4 and most new infections amongst 2 to 11 and 22 to 34 year olds in London and north west. Yvonne Doyle, medical director at public health england, is worried about increased rate of admission of older people with covid to hospitalsNadhim Zahawi on Question Time last night made himself look a right plonker
Tory minister accused of falling for 'fantasy figure' in daily testing blunder
Business under-secretary Nadhim Zahawi U-turned during a fiery debate with BBC Question Time's host Fiona Bruce after incorrectly quoting the testing capacity figures instead of the actual daily tests done
"We're now doing 240,000 tests a day, but clearly there's more demand," he (Nadhim Zahawi) told Thursday's edition of the BBC programme.
Ms Bruce cut in, however, to point out: "You're not testing 240,000 people a day."
The Conservative politician said: "240,000 antigen tests a day at the moment. We plan to increase it to 500,000 by the end of October."
But Ms Bruce again cut in: "I'm sorry. The government's own figures, the latest figures, are that 81,000 people are being tested every day. That's the government's latest figures - not 240,000. That's the capacity."
Mr Zahawi said: "Well, the figures that I've got is 240,000...is the latest figures."
"Is what?" said the host. "The average of people being tested a day?"
The MP then u-turned, admitting: "No, this is the capacity."
the second wave is coming and it will be bigger than the first wave but as flecc said, it only produces a tiny change in life expectancy of the general population.
Still, as I was watching a reportage on COVID ward in a hospital in Marseille yesterday (BBC News 24) - I came to think that perhaps people should be given a choice of a mercy pill before their admission to Covid ICU.
Still, as I was watching a reportage on COVID ward in a hospital in Marseille yesterday (BBC News 24) - I came to think that perhaps people should be given a choice of a mercy pill before their admission to Covid ICU.
Yes, I agree. It would have been an act of great humanity and kindness for the population of the U.K. if Boris had been given one before he was admitted to ICU.
But then the tories would no doubt have voted govy moggy or chunt in as a replacement. And where would we be then? Much better to give the eighteen million or so that voted for boris and brexit mercy pills. In case they want to do the honourable thing and make the ultimate sacrifice. Now that their hero has failed. We could label it their moonshot and tell them boris said it will be just fine to take it.
If that was a death wish, his hopes will be answered.Talking of E-scooters which we were not, was it mentioned on here that the Gov have scrapped the official trial of the aforementioned because some people were seen riding them on the pavement ... no! surely not, as if.
I've seen some sights over the weeks of the sort of antics kids get up to on these things but yesterdays topped it all.
Two kids were riding straight down the middle of a busy main road going flat out, then one kid stood very still on the scooter platform took both his hands off and stretched his arms out crucifix style .. unbelievable.
Presumably you can wedge the throttle full on and leap off, what fun
Todays' fun blip
I just farted so hard and long that my voice recognition software wrote a Daily Mail article.
I just farted so hard and long that my voice recognition software wrote a Daily Mail article.
You missed an opportunity there!Talking of E-scooters which we were not, was it mentioned on here that the Gov have scrapped the official trial of the aforementioned because some people were seen riding them on the pavement ... no! surely not, as if.
I've seen some sights over the weeks of the sort of antics kids get up to on these things but yesterdays topped it all.
Two kids were riding straight down the middle of a busy main road going flat out, then one kid stood very still on the scooter platform took both his hands off and stretched his arms out crucifix style .. unbelievable.
Presumably you can wedge the throttle full on and leap off, what fun
A loudly delivered shout of "Banzai!" with any luck would have surprised him and delivered a lesson on how painful gravitational attraction to a road surface can be