Brexit, for once some facts.

tommie

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NI gets there:

Executive approves new powers to protect the public
Date published: 28 March 2020

Sweeping new powers will come into force across Northern Ireland tonight at 11pm to combat the spread of Coronavirus.
New powers to combat the spread of coronavirus are to come into force across Northern Ireland from 23:00 GMT on Saturday.

The regulations will prohibit anyone from leaving home without a reasonable excuse and compel the closure of certain premises.

The NI Executive agreed the powers in response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Penalties, ranging from fixed penalty notices to fines of up to £5,000, are being introduced as enforcement.

The powers also ban gatherings of more than two people.

The executive has also agreed that:
Anyone who can work from home must work from home
  • Employers must facilitate working from home where it is feasible
  • No employer should compel an employee to come to work if it is feasible to work from home
  • Every employer must take all reasonable steps to safeguard the health, safety and wellbeing of employees during the COVID-19 emergency, whether working from home or in the workplace
  • Every employer must have particular regard to the safety of employees in the workplace and must put into effect the guidance on social distancing issued by the Department for the Economy
  • Every employer has a legal duty to ensure, so far as it is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all employees
  • Where a business is failing to observe the Department for the Economy guidance and breaching the legal duty on health and safety, the statutory authorities will take robust action, which may include prosecution for criminal offences
  • Where necessary, the Executive Office will also use its power of direction to close or restrict businesses that do not ensure the safety of their employees.
 

oyster

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Does someone just not get it? You want us to maintain separation and stay locked down even more strictly. So you ensure that posties have to visit every single house, possibly spreading CV even more effectively - even those for which there is no other reason for the postie to go to? (Not entirely sure if this is the whole of the UK or just England.)

The country’s 30 million households will receive a letter from the prime minister cautioning them that the worst is still ahead, along with details of the government’s orders on social distancing, symptoms and handwashing, as ministers battle to prepare the NHS for the coming surge in cases.
 

tommie

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Does someone just not get it? You want us to maintain separation and stay locked down even more strictly. So you ensure that posties have to visit every single house, possibly spreading CV even more effectively - even those for which there is no other reason for the postie to go to? (Not entirely sure if this is the whole of the UK or just England.)
The country’s 30 million households will receive a letter from the prime minister cautioning them that the worst is still ahead, along with details of the government’s orders on social distancing, symptoms and handwashing, as ministers battle to prepare the NHS for the coming surge in cases.
Anything coming through my letterbox these times is treated with extreme suspicion -usually rubber gloves time!

So correspondence arriving from some blabbering buffoon lecturing us on what we must all do to avoid this virus when this individual has himself got the damned thing will be incinerated pretty darned quick

What is wrong with these people?!!
 

Danidl

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Shift ending at 11pm not good for those that aren`t local,...... so her workplace is classed as essential i take it, no chance of them shutting up shop?
If you`re going to have to drive its ok as far as Banbridge, but then over to craigavon is a twisty road. Slight plus side is that the roads will be deserted at that time of night.
I know its longer , but the A1 always seems safer to me.. It would be 20 minutes or more longer each way. .. up to Banbridge is fine. Those dangerous crossings are in the next stretch. Incidentally I recently met with the Engineer who designed that section..Engineers Ireland is a whole of country operation,and gave him a piece of my mind.. He wanted flyovers but the budget wouldn't allow.
 

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Boris Johnson whilst locked-in chaired the morning Covid-19 meeting via video-link - Downing St.
I chaired my first committee meeting by video link this week... It was weird.. but actually empowering. People were more polite, and waited their turn
 
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Danidl

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New powers to combat the spread of coronavirus are to come into force across Northern Ireland from 23:00 GMT on Saturday.

The regulations will prohibit anyone from leaving home without a reasonable excuse and compel the closure of certain premises.

The NI Executive agreed the powers in response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Penalties, ranging from fixed penalty notices to fines of up to £5,000, are being introduced as enforcement.

The powers also ban gatherings of more than two people.

The executive has also agreed that:
Anyone who can work from home must work from home
  • Employers must facilitate working from home where it is feasible
  • No employer should compel an employee to come to work if it is feasible to work from home
  • Every employer must take all reasonable steps to safeguard the health, safety and wellbeing of employees during the COVID-19 emergency, whether working from home or in the workplace
  • Every employer must have particular regard to the safety of employees in the workplace and must put into effect the guidance on social distancing issued by the Department for the Economy
  • Every employer has a legal duty to ensure, so far as it is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all employees
  • Where a business is failing to observe the Department for the Economy guidance and breaching the legal duty on health and safety, the statutory authorities will take robust action, which may include prosecution for criminal offences
  • Where necessary, the Executive Office will also use its power of direction to close or restrict businesses that do not ensure the safety of their employees.
Ditto down south. During today, the list of essential business were clarified, and of course Pharmaceutical is in a few lists!.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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I chaired my first committee meeting by video link this week... It was weird.. but actually empowering. People were more polite, and waited their turn
i tried to run a reflective practice group for frontline clinicians. it was a **** up - usually it operates on group analytic principles (resonance, mirroring) to move from dialogue to group discussion in which themes emerge. This didn't happen at all. Some were huddling in a room (and not observing social distancing), some were in noisy rooms with laptops (using Microsoft meetings). in jargon, there were no clear boundaries or dynamic administration. And me blaring from a tinny laptop speaker in the centre of the room didn't help either. Ill need to rethink the way I do it and I'm not sure how.
 
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oldgroaner

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Anything coming through my letterbox these times is treated with extreme suspicion -usually rubber gloves time!

So correspondence arriving from some blabbering buffoon lecturing us on what we must all do to avoid this virus when this individual has himself got the damned thing will be incinerated pretty darned quick

What is wrong with these people?!!
You want the truth?

Idiots voted them into power
It's as simple as that
 

oyster

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I suspect this will be of limited benefit but some, I am sure, will find it a lifeline:

Broadband providers to lift data caps during Covid-19 lockdown

Telecoms industry will relax data limits and lower prices to protect the vulnerable


For example, I am hardly using mobile at the moment - almost all traffic is through our fibre connection. But there will be people not in that lucky position. There will be many who are unable to use their usual restuarants, cafes, places of work, etc. which might suffice under ordinary circumstances.
 

oldgroaner

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Truly this fascist paper should be shut down
Mail on Sunday
They've got the wrong headline it should have read "EU takes Ultimate revenge for Brexit"


A huge propaganda attack based on the word "might", it could have course been the other way round.
I wondered how long it would take the Daily Mail vermin to find a way to blame the EU!
And Boris has found a new way to spread infection, sending postmen and women to every house needlessly, carrying a letter that could be contaminated.
 
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oyster

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Truly this fascist paper should be shut down
Mail on Sunday
They've got the wrong headline it should have read "EU takes Ultimate revenge for Brexit"


A huge propaganda attack based on the word "might", it could have course been the other way round.
I wondered how long it would take the Daily Mail vermin to find a way to blame the EU!
And Boris has found a new way to spread infection, sending postmen and women to every house needlessly, carrying a letter that could be contaminated.
If Johnson (and everyone else) had observed proper social distancing and appropriate hygiene, then he wouldn't have contracted it, even if Barnier were carrying it.

Well, they tell us that is what is both necessary and sufficient.
 

jonathan.agnew

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If Johnson (and everyone else) had observed proper social distancing and appropriate hygiene, then he wouldn't have contracted it, even if Barnier were carrying it.

Well, they tell us that is what is both necessary and sufficient.
I see Tony Blair making a pitch for the private sector in the nhs and his international role ito corona on sky news at the moment. He becomes less and less surprising. I think there are agendas in the response that really arent about health care or the public good
 

Woosh

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his line is unsurprising but his view on mass testing is identical to mine.
My children all want to pay for testing.
 
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oyster

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Seems UK government blame is now accruing to China - for having had up to forty times as many cases as they have declared.

I find this ridiculous.

China might have had more cases than declared. (Whether intentionally or not - many might have been mild and passed under the radar.) If so, they have either managed to hide a forty-fold number of deaths or their death rate was super-impressive.

Would a higher rate in China have meant a better government response? Unless they can turn round and show documents which say "If rate in China is X, don't worry too much, but if it is 40X worry." I cannot see it as letting them off the hook.
 

oldgroaner

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I'm quite sure the world has gone mad
Conor McCabe

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Sky News is reporting that the deaths from coronavirus aren't so bad because most of the people "would have died anyway some time this year"...




My tweet

Very droll, and if you add the two together ? oh boy, what have we done to deserve such idiotic reporting. It's like the Captain of the Titanic telling the passengers some of them would have died anyway, to reassure them :cool:
 

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