Brexit, for once some facts.
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That definitely makes you a leaver and our decision definitely defines your future with regards in or out EU (or in your case UK)
In your opinion, you could be right but its still only a view. As of today we are all leaving, you are by default a leaver. Things could change, agreed, but that does not mean we are not leaving, actually left.... Sort of.
so what do you reckon? do we have a majority of pessimists?No more leavers or remainers… just optimists and pessimists
we have left, and handed over the power of government to Gollum of Downing Street.
Majority have long been for remaining, so it's majority pessimists by around 8%.
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Not even sort of, only said we have left without actually doing so yet. And the May/Johnson deal isn't leaving anyway even when finalised, the whole House of Commons said as much by overwhelming vote, several times. They only nodded it through finally to get out of the dead end they'd made for themselves, leaving Northern Ireland the EU side of the border in the process with the threat of Scotland joining them there.
So by the time we concede still more as we go though the trade negotiations in order to get something out of the wreckage of Brexit, there'll be little vestige of leaving remaining.
The main thing left will be loss.
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That depends whether you consider “we” to mean Internet forums and social meeja outlets as representative of society in general.
I don't use social media for news - albeit having an account with FB, but apparently, the BBC does not understand why people voted for brexit (according to some tory MPs who want the BBC to stop being funded by levy but privatised instead).
The Coronavirus situation is getting bad in China. Just read the following. If I hear any more, I’ll post it later.
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But we haven't have we, and by the time Boris bungles the job, who knows?
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Oh Heck
Your esteemed order for Brexit memorabilia may be a little late for Jan 1 2021
Disagree, the House of Commons have repeatedly said the deal is not leaving, and the "all" is hardly true when N.I is left on the EU side of the border. And remember that in the Great Repeal Bill, parliament has written all existing EU law into UK law.
Our so called departure will not be completed until the trade negotiations are, so all further concessions then will add to the failures to separate within the Withdrawal Agreement and Great Repeal Bill.
We already know that the EU will have to largely retain its fishing rights in our waters, although our fishermen don't yet.
By the time its all over, the concept that we have left will just be a bad joke.
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Absolutely as in the principle
Hedge fund shorting the pound
And we have the very man as chancellor of the Exchequer.
You and I both know that the BBC don’t care which way people voted. They don’t care what the outcome is and they don’t care that in truth it’s all over now. The outcome of any of these political issues, human tragedies, natural disasters is all the same to them. It allows Laura Kunsenberg To pay for her new Mercedes, it allows Kate Adie to continue toward “national treasure” Status (we know the truth Kate) and hundreds of other journalists to follow on in their quest to whip up a story out of anything and nothing.
Sadly it becomes all encompassing for some people which isn’t good for them.
Brexiters have no principles, just prejudices.
But as you imply, for a while they'll believe it's leaving and worthwhile. Until it begins to hurt them personally, like those 15,000 connected with Honda's departure who in a majority in that area foolishly voted to leave.
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some conservative MPs use the term 'cross currents' in relation to fake news - that seems to mean 'put this in another way'.
I don't like the current funding model of the BBC but it has to be protected from Cummings' spads/clones. In France, you have to pay if you receive terrestrial TVs but all channels are commercially funded. AFP for news remains largely funded by French government. So, BBC should be split into news which is government funded and drama which is commercially funded. That may be more acceptable.
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