Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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Just saw BBC news - BJ's attempt to reply to Laura K made him look as if he is losing it. Even more extreme gaps and incoherent bluster than usual ending with what were obviously a few prepared words he managed to recall. Is he suffering exhaustion?
 

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Donald Tusk's last word on brexit:

I have heard repeatedly from Brexiteers that they wanted to leave the European Union to make the United Kingdom global again, believing that only alone, it can truly be great. You could hear in these voices a longing for the Empire. But the reality is exactly the opposite. Only as part of a united Europe can the UK play a global role, only together can we confront, without any complexes, the greatest powers of this world. In fact, I can say the same about Germany or France. And the world knows it. I have heard the same in India, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and South Africa; that after its departure, the UK will become an outsider, a second-rate player, while the main battlefield will be occupied by China, the United States and the European Union.

"Why are they doing this?" – I was asked this regretful question everywhere I went. One of my English friends is probably right when he says with melancholy that Brexit is the real end of the British Empire.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/11/13/keynote-speech-by-president-donal-tusk-at-the-opening-ceremony-of-the-2019-2020-academic-year-at-the-college-of-europe/
 

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Just saw BBC news - BJ's attempt to reply to Laura K made him look as if he is losing it. Even more extreme gaps and incoherent bluster than usual ending with what were obviously a few prepared words he managed to recall. Is he suffering exhaustion?
£500 per household. That's as much as the conservatives want to spend on people who have lost a great deal
in the flood. Don't get ill if BJ wins.
 
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flecc

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Donald Tusk's last word on brexit:

I have heard repeatedly from Brexiteers that they wanted to leave the European Union to make the United Kingdom global again, believing that only alone, it can truly be great. You could hear in these voices a longing for the Empire. But the reality is exactly the opposite. Only as part of a united Europe can the UK play a global role, only together can we confront, without any complexes, the greatest powers of this world. In fact, I can say the same about Germany or France. And the world knows it. I have heard the same in India, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and South Africa; that after its departure, the UK will become an outsider, a second-rate player, while the main battlefield will be occupied by China, the United States and the European Union.


https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/11/13/keynote-speech-by-president-donal-tusk-at-the-opening-ceremony-of-the-2019-2020-academic-year-at-the-college-of-europe/
Donald is absolutely right, and it's what we diehard remainers have always known. That is the fundamental position in today's world, made worse by Britain's ever increasing general incompetence. Even if we remain in the EU we will still have to considerably improve our performance in the things that matter, and they are not rugby and cricket.
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Tesla's decision to rule out the UK in favour of Berlin for it's new European factory due to the Brexit uncertainly is yet another nail in the coffin Brexit is constructing for our future.

So much for our politician's announcements that they plan us to be integral to the e-car future.

Honda have gone and will make their e-cars in Japan.

Vauxhall/Opel are making their new Corsa e-car in Spain.

Jaguar have paired with BMW in a Hungarian e-car battery enterprise.

Both Nissan and BMW casting doubts on their e-car production here if Brexit raises their costs.

Now Tesla lock us out of their e-car manufacturing future.

With e-cars being the future, this trend is not looking good.
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oyster

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Tesla's decision to rule out the UK in favour of Berlin for it's new European factory due to the Brexit uncertainly is yet another nail in the coffin Brexit is constructing for our future.

So much for our politician's announcements that they plan us to be integral to the e-car future.

Honda have gone and will make their e-cars in Japan.

Vauxhall/Opel are making their new Corsa e-car in Spain.

Jaguar have paired with BMW in a Hungarian e-car battery enterprise.

Both Nissan and BMW casting doubts on their e-car production here if Brexit raises their costs.

Now Tesla lock us out of their e-car manufacturing future.

With e-cars being the future, this trend is not looking good.
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Looks like there will be quite a good range of ecars to buy import.
 

50Hertz

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Tesla's decision to rule out the UK in favour of Berlin for it's new European factory due to the Brexit uncertainly is yet another nail in the coffin Brexit is constructing for our future.

So much for our politician's announcements that they plan us to be integral to the e-car future.

Honda have gone and will make their e-cars in Japan.

Vauxhall/Opel are making their new Corsa e-car in Spain.

Jaguar have paired with BMW in a Hungarian e-car battery enterprise.

Both Nissan and BMW casting doubts on their e-car production here if Brexit raises their costs.

Now Tesla lock us out of their e-car manufacturing future.

With e-cars being the future, this trend is not looking good.
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So much for a closer working relationship with the US too.

Maybe Elon Musk is planning to move the Space X project to the Cornish Space Rocket Launch Pad. Hilary Frank has pledged to put pasty into orbit and return it safely to the Earth before this decade is out, so something is kicking off.
 
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flecc

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Looks like there will be quite a good range of ecars to buy import.
The number of e-car releases planned for 2020/2021 is very large so the choice will be considerable.

And only the Nissan Leaf almost wholly made here, though the e-Mini assembled here from a mix of parts sources. And those only if we ensure a no tariff deal with the EU.
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50Hertz

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I hear that long time Labour supporter, Eddie Marsan, has spoken out against Corbyn and Labour over the Jew Hate crisis. He’s backing LibDem now. I’m hoping for a total Labour wipeout in the GE, maybe they will reboot with a new leader and fresh batch of MPs afterwards.
 
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I hear that long time Labour supporter, Eddie Marsan, has spoken out against Corbyn and Labour over the Jew Hate crisis. He’s backing LibDem now. I’m hoping for a total Labour wipeout in the GE, maybe they will reboot with a new leader and fresh batch of MPs afterwards.

Is this your latest thing now?

You are following actors so they can tell you what to think?

Busses passe?
 
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50Hertz

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Is this your latest thing now?

You are following actors so they can tell you what to think?

Busses passe?
Never you mind. Now get on with selling more small add space in the Shitsville Echo, that second hand baby biggie isn't going to find a new home all by itself.
 
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Fingers

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Try this mathematical film test. It's pretty amazing. Mine turned out to be "Star Wars". I was surprised how this worked.

This test will predict which of the 18 films listed below is your favourite. Don't ask me how, but it really works!

Don't cheat and look at the film list till you have done the maths!

Here goes...

Pick a number from 1-9…

Multiply by 3…

Add 3…

Multiply by 3 again…

Now add the two digits together to find your predicted favourite film in the list of 18 films below.

Film List:

1. Gone With The Wind
2. E.T.
3. Beverly Hills Cop
4. Star Wars
5. Forrest Gump
6. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
7. Jaws
8. Grease
9. The Joy of Anal Fisting
10. Casablanca
11. Jurassic Park
12. Shrek
13. Pirates of the Caribbean
14. Titanic
15. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
16. Home Alone
17. Mrs. Doubtfire
18. Toy Story
 

Danidl

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Never you mind. Now get on with selling more small add space in the Shitsville Echo, that second hand baby biggie isn't going to find a new home all by itself.
There you go again.. as Freud explained most humans get past that phase after toilet training.. Since you rarely post without referring to excrement, it is an obsession with you.
 

flecc

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I hear that long time Labour supporter, Eddie Marsan, has spoken out against Corbyn and Labour over the Jew Hate crisis. He’s backing LibDem now.
He's a nonentity actor using this non-existent issue to try to make a lucrative new career for himself as a LibDem MP.

There is no Labour Jew hate crisis, nor has there ever been.
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jonathan.agnew

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Try this mathematical film test. It's pretty amazing. Mine turned out to be "Star Wars". I was surprised how this worked.

This test will predict which of the 18 films listed below is your favourite. Don't ask me how, but it really works!

Don't cheat and look at the film list till you have done the maths!

Here goes...

Pick a number from 1-9…

Multiply by 3…

Add 3…

Multiply by 3 again…

Now add the two digits together to find your predicted favourite film in the list of 18 films below.

Film List:

1. Gone With The Wind
2. E.T.
3. Beverly Hills Cop
4. Star Wars
5. Forrest Gump
6. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
7. Jaws
8. Grease
9. The Joy of Anal Fisting
10. Casablanca
11. Jurassic Park
12. Shrek
13. Pirates of the Caribbean
14. Titanic
15. Raiders Of The Lost Ark
16. Home Alone
17. Mrs. Doubtfire
18. Toy Story
Well, its little surprise breximorons like you are anally fixated (borders, jingoism, "taking back control"). You're too limited to see the bigger picture.
 

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