Brexit, for once some facts.
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1. Spring not starting on Feb 1st... I identified credible countries where that is the accepted starting date in the Northern Hemisphere.
2. The ENTIRE sequence regarding the population ..and saying I was wrong.
Very good post. Think it sums up vast swathes of public feelings at moment.
The following is taken from the Meteorological Office and applies across Europe, North America and the wider northern hemisphere:
When is spring?
Spring is the season beginning in March and ending in May. Astronomically, spring typically starts on the day of the vernal (or spring) equinox which falls around the 20 March in the Northern Hemisphere. The equinox refers to when the sun's path crosses the equator and the day and night are of equal lengths lasting around 12 hours each.
The beginning of spring can be one of the most recognisable transitions between the seasons as the days begin to lengthen and the temperatures warm. Sometimes without even knowing it we often define the seasons phenologically. This refers to biological indicators, most notably the blossoming or emergence of certain plants, or the activities of certain animals. The very origin of the phrase vernal equinox also alludes to this with 'vernal' coming from the Latin vernus meaning bloom.
Your bullshit fairy story based garbage has no place in the modern world. You are wrong, you know you are wrong, everyone else knows you are wrong, but you are lacking the character to admit that you are wrong.
That's too broad. Which bits? I require you to identify the lies. Be careful because I will prove you wrong again.
You are so wrong that you should adopt either of the following names. Mr Wrong or Mr Fuckup
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He doesnt like many policies of state of Israel and actions against Palestine. To say he doesnt like State of Israel is probably a right wing media construct.
Many of us already knew not to trust Farage. Now you have a garage full of farage.
This is entirely due to the Jewish people themselves, or rather the extremist orthodox among them. They created a false definition of anti semitism which was unwisely accepted by the United Nations. It was false because it included criticism of Israel as being anti semitic, a clearly political move.
I've rejected this definition myself, as has the Labour Party who have only signed up to and agree the true anti semitic part.
Because they've refused to sign up to criticism of Israel as anti semitic, the orthodox started this anti semitic campaign against Corbyn, aided by it's own MPs with Jewish connections. Chief among these was Ian Austin, who although not Jewish himself was adopted by a Jewish father.
Clearly the Jews themselves are in the wrong. Given Israel's behaviour, we must be entirely free to criticise that state when necessary.
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Sometimes I don't know why I bother, it must be the educationist in me. Let me explain one more time. The first of February is traditionally taken as the first day of Spring in Ireland , Scotland and presumably Scandinavia. We are more conscious of the lengthening days than lands more southerly. I even provided you with a Wiki reference. If you had had sense, you might have accepted then that we worked with different definitions.but your arrogance and childish mindset cannot allow for that. And you could not ignore the possibility for another insult. Least we forget the original reference was a throwaway comment related to the new Brexit date . By persisting you continue to display your behaviour.
Now if you reread what I wrote in my first posting on population ,you will see that I indicated that the population of the West was stable and the growth was from the East. Of course your immediate response is to call me wrong.. By continuing to so do so you convert a simple wrong into a lie. . So an apology in that case also is merited.
I have indicated on a few occasions that I find you predelicition for matters lavatorial extremely tiresome , and at this stage pathological.
..Those words can be found in a dictionary.
Labour can work and concentrate on other issues if the UK leaves the EU or not while the conservatives can only function if we leave.
With such a big issues like Brexit and all of the implications, we do need to know where Labour stand. If they don't decide, I think the public will decide for them in December.
Social justice.
Their attitude to Brexit is that it's for the public to decide, whether that be by another referendum or a General Election.
I see those as far better than what the Tories offer, more wealth for wealthy people and further decline for everyone else.
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Their way is simple: staying in the EU is best economically, so if we leave, we should have a very soft brexit to minimise the economic impact and cost.
you just don't want to see any merit in a soft brexit.
JC's problem is that he cannot bring himself to saying that staying is better economically than leaving. It's just a problem of a fig leaf.
Idealistically you might be correct but voters need to know prior to Election exactly where Labour stand on Brexit. Wether they wish to take us out or remain is important on a faith basis. Public need to know whichever government is chosen has a desire to carry out leave (or remain) with conviction rather than paying mere lip service to a public desire. Afterall our current predicameny is partly caused by a cabinet attempting to carry out a refereendum result they did not really believe in. (Cameron and May were both remainers as, I believe, was Boris not that long ago)
Voters have a right to know where MPs stand prior to electing them. Labour suggesting they would follow will of people is IMHO a fudge so Labour can maintain the hope of attracting both leavers and remainers. In reality both may well desert labour for a more straight forward approach.
Trouble is in his heart Corbyn is probably one of the few true leavers. He has never suported any EU votes or initiatives in his entire career. Almost the complete opposite of BJ at moment.