If BJ’s deal is rejected, the EU will grant an extension. They don’t want no deal. They want the £39 billion.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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His best hope is EU not granting an extension. If they do chances are,.... you are right.
He is asking for an extension prior to voting on his deal tho. That could easily make a world of difference,especially so if they refuse. He would go to parliament with no deal or his deal being only options.
The EU do want the money but they want it done asap. Hence why I think there is a good chance they will refuse the extension.
That got me thinking will we revoke decimilisation if we Brexit...
Will the UK go back to pounds, shillings and pence after Brexit ...
Of course it will, and don't forget guineas and threpenny bits. Additionally:
Anyone caught being French in public will be flogged.
Use of words such as kilometer will be a criminal offence, and repeat offenders will be set in the stocks and pelted with rotten turnips.
The sale of garlic will be banned: those caught in possession of this controlled substance will be considered as French sympathizers and be treated accordingly.
Her Majesty the Queen will once again licence British pirates to attack Spanish ships at will.
Brussels sprouts will be renamed as dwarf pseudo cabbages, which is, after all, what they are.
The Channel Tunnel will be closed for transportation and be repurposed as a storage chamber for the national ale reserve.
On a sober note, whatever currency we have will be worth considerably less if the Brexit chaos continues…
Web developers on presumably on double time have been busy rejigging over the weekend
Brexit date downplayed in government advertising shift
The government has changed the wording of its Get Ready for Brexit campaign appearing to suggest a no-deal exit on the 31 October is now less likely.
Its website now says: "We could still leave with no deal on 31 October."
The wording has been altered from earlier this month, when it said: "The UK is due to leave on 31 October."
Prominent logos on the website saying "Brexit 31 October" also appear to have been removed.
Faisal said the wording also indicated preparation for 31 October was for the possibility of "no deal" rather than Brexit generally.
Brexit date downplayed in government advertising shift
The government has changed the wording of its Get Ready for Brexit campaign appearing to suggest a no-deal exit on the 31 October is now less likely.
Its website now says: "We could still leave with no deal on 31 October."
The wording has been altered from earlier this month, when it said: "The UK is due to leave on 31 October."
Prominent logos on the website saying "Brexit 31 October" also appear to have been removed.
Faisal said the wording also indicated preparation for 31 October was for the possibility of "no deal" rather than Brexit generally.
There is a little party trick based on £sd where you secretly write down an amount on a piece of paper and put that somewhere where everyone can see it is untouched. Then get someone to choose an £sd value and do some simple arithmetic. The answer comes out to what you wrote - and then reveal with a drum roll.
Because it is quite simple, yet moderately impressive, I have tried it with some people younger than me. Explaining adding and subtracting pennies, especially when you carry or borrow, is hard enough. But the shillings floor almost everyone.
I can imagine the mess even numerate and intelligent people would be in!
It would be very interesting to consider the difficulties which we would have with technology. For example, I don't know of any calculators which can directly handle £sd. Mobile phone calculators would need £sd modes. Computers can, of course, be programmed to handle £sd, but changing over would be a nightmare. Mechanical label printers for shops cannot print £sd values. Petrol pumps can't display £sd (the ones that use electromechanical displays).
Would we also revert language to include three-ha'pence? Thrupenny bit? Tuppence ha'penny?
When I started my first job in 1959 we worked out the 1,000 invoices that came in each day with one of these
And also wrote out a cheque for each order.
It was involved, but we became very fast!
Getting desperate in the Express
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MPs warned of 'revenge' in next election as poll finds politicians will block Brexit deal
REMAINER MPs will succeed in their efforts to block Boris Johnson’s plan to deliver Brexit on October 31, seven in 10 Express.co.uk readers believe, but frustrated Leave voters have warned them to expect “revenge” at the next general election."
So what?
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MPs warned of 'revenge' in next election as poll finds politicians will block Brexit deal
REMAINER MPs will succeed in their efforts to block Boris Johnson’s plan to deliver Brexit on October 31, seven in 10 Express.co.uk readers believe, but frustrated Leave voters have warned them to expect “revenge” at the next general election."
So what?
In the Daily Mail they clearly see no irony in their Lie of the day
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'We have the numbers': Boris Johnson claims he has enough support to get his Brexit deal through - but Labour is plotting to wreck it by trying to force a second referendum
If you have "The numbers" why do you fear another referendum wrecking brexit?
It should be a foregone conclusion
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'We have the numbers': Boris Johnson claims he has enough support to get his Brexit deal through - but Labour is plotting to wreck it by trying to force a second referendum
If you have "The numbers" why do you fear another referendum wrecking brexit?
It should be a foregone conclusion
Those of us who grew up with it would, I'm sure, be fine. Despite ready reckoners, etc., I think those who have never used £sd would struggle for a considerable time. Perhaps especially if all our phones had £sd calculators which would tend to avoid the need to do it in our brains.When I started my first job in 1959 we worked out the 1,000 invoices that came in each day with one of these
And also wrote out a cheque for each order.
It was involved, but we became very fast!
The other day, I had a bit of a surprise in some retail eastablishment (can't remember if it was a shop, a cafe, or what), the person serving counted my change back up to the tendered note as they gave it to me. That largely disappeared as tills arrived that display change amounts.
<revenge>I'll never vote tory or for the current MP because of their part in brexit, however it turns out.</revenge>
Trouble is, I'd never vote tory anyway.
Some info from the IFS
"The UK is set to give up the best deal any EU member state has ever had - it pays £280 million a week for membership - the IFS calculates that generates £1.9bn of GDP every week, a net gain of £1.6bn EVERY WEEK! "
Perhaps someone ought to mention this to the public?
"The UK is set to give up the best deal any EU member state has ever had - it pays £280 million a week for membership - the IFS calculates that generates £1.9bn of GDP every week, a net gain of £1.6bn EVERY WEEK! "
Perhaps someone ought to mention this to the public?
you waste your effort.
brexiters will argue that it's not about money, it's about taking back control.
They can't say what it is that they want to take back control of.
Pause and think about that for a moment. We have people who are ready to make themselves, and others, poorer so that the can have a greater degree of control over a "something." They have no idea what the "something" is, what the "something" looks like, who currently controls the "something" or what will be better once they gain control of the "something", which in all likelihood doesn't exist anyway.
If that is not the purest, most distilled and concentrated definition of very stupid, please tell me what is. Three years ago, they would have scoffed at the very notion, but incrementally, bit by bit, they have allowed the Boris Johnson's of this world reduce them to this. WAKE UP!!!!
their leaders know what they want to take control of: the conservative leadership.
Brexit is primarily a fight between conservative MPs. For the rest, they'll decide later what it is that they want for the country.
The ERG position
Baker lays out exactly how they feel about Johnson's deal, and the plan to "restructure the agreement."
Drop out with no deal is most likely the aim once it has been passed, for otherwise what is the point of voting for what is in his words
"A deeply Flawed deal?"
More on this
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Brexitshambles@brexit_sham
Baker's 'private' ERG address on Saturday: 'the deal is deeply, deeply flawed and unattractive.. we can persuade the govt to restructure negotiations.'
Baker gaslighting the public today on the
@BBC
: 'we are going to compromise in the national interest.'
This verminous ERG group should be proscribed
They intend to vote for the agreement and then in bad faith destroy it
Any method that will protect offshore Tax evasion assets and make America Great again will suit this gang of traitors.
Drop out with no deal is most likely the aim once it has been passed, for otherwise what is the point of voting for what is in his words
"A deeply Flawed deal?"
"
Brexitshambles@brexit_sham
Baker's 'private' ERG address on Saturday: 'the deal is deeply, deeply flawed and unattractive.. we can persuade the govt to restructure negotiations.'
Baker gaslighting the public today on the
@BBC
: 'we are going to compromise in the national interest.'
This verminous ERG group should be proscribed
They intend to vote for the agreement and then in bad faith destroy it
Any method that will protect offshore Tax evasion assets and make America Great again will suit this gang of traitors.
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Not to mention Farthing, Tanner, Bob/Shilling, Florin, Half-crown and the Guinea.
As you've said the population couldn't cope with £sd. Nobody ever really learnt it in later life, it could only be grown into from a young age.
But it was brilliant since it was often divisible by two, three and four, instead of only the two and five of metric.
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