Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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That depends on what the "it" was that seemed so worthwhile? Divorce is complex, but in an effort to stay on topic I'd say that, as with the uk/eu, it's usually better to try to work things out in a relationship than to separate as part of imagining all the bad was located in the other and there is some nirvana just over the horizon where one can escape from it all.
If brexit is a divorce, does that mean Catholics cannot support it?
 

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Missed this the other day:

Coppola takes revenge for Boris Johnson’s Godfather tribute
Director of PM’s favourite film scene denounces ‘foolish’ rush towards no-deal Brexit

Westminster trembled in July when Boris Johnson told the Daily Mail his favourite movie scene was “the multiple retribution killings at the end of The Godfather”. But now the film’s director, Francis Ford Coppola, has taken his revenge on the prime minister, ruthlessly denouncing his “foolish” rush towards a potentially catastrophic no-deal Brexit.

Coppola pointed out that Johnson’s love of his 1972 mafia film put him in the company of some of “modern history’s most brutal figures”, including Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi.

“I feel badly that scenes in a gangster film might inspire any activity in the real world or [provide] encouragement to someone I see is about to bring the beloved United Kingdom to ruin,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/13/coppola-denounces-boris-johnsons-love-of-the-godfather
 

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It's not. An oxymoron is an apparent contradiction, that is in fact true. Like "seriously funny". "Neither funny nor instructive" isnt an apparent contradiction, it's simply stating the obvious, unfortunate limited dimensions of your posts.

You really are a guppy.

Lower even than the common goldfish that is used in the pejorative for thickos.
 
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Back to the subject, John Humphrys on the BBC,

"Its bosses, almost to a man and woman, could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box on the referendum ballot paper."

He should have added 'and most of its current affairs journalists and all its business and scientific journalists'. The only notable exceptions are its political journalists.

The point why so many people could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box is whether you believe leave voters were lied to.
 
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oldgroaner

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Back to the subject, John Humphrys on the BBC,

"Its bosses, almost to a man and woman, could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box on the referendum ballot paper."

He should have added 'and most of its current affairs journalists and all its business and scientific journalists'. The only notable exceptions are its political journalists.

The point why so many people could simply not grasp how anyone could have put a cross in the Leave box is whether you believe leave voters were lied to.
If you recall I was surprised more didn't vote for leave, there had after all been a generations long campaign of anti EU lies from the press and government.
 

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I am in France at the moment. Had an apéritif with a few neigbours yesterday and the subject veered to brexit. 'Do you guys think of leaving the EU too?' The consensus is that may have been the case at the time of President Sarkozy but not now, they want to have the same tax rates and social benefits so that people would not want to move because French pay more tax than Spaniards. France experiences the same shortage of GPs, dentists, hospital specialists like we have in the UK. Waiting at A&E is now about 2 hours, appointment with an eye specialist a year.
 

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I am in France at the moment. Had an apéritif with a few neigbours yesterday and the subject veered to brexit. 'Do you guys think of leaving the EU too?' The consensus is that may have been the case at the time of President Sarkozy but not now, they want to have the same tax rates and social benefits so that people would not want to move because French pay more tax than Spaniards. France experiences the same shortage of GPs, dentists, hospital specialists like we have in the UK. Waiting at A&E is now about 2 hours, appointment with an eye specialist a year.
Not convinced. France has more GPs - based on:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/554951/general-practitioners-in-europe/

GPsPopulationPop per GP
France
60214​
67,210,000​
1116.186​
UK
49824​
64,100,000​
1286.529​
 

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Not convinced. France has more GPs - based on:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/554951/general-practitioners-in-europe/

GPsPopulationPop per GP
France
60214​
67,210,000​
1116.186​
UK
49824​
64,100,000​
1286.529​
When I moved to England, France had a doctor for every 700-800 inhabitants.
there are still plenty of old GPs working well into their late 70s.
My best friend is a GP, he's been trying to handover his surgery to a younger doctor for the last two years without success and could not even find a locum to cover holidays.
Every time I see him, I always ask if he has retired yet and the answer is still not.
France does not have as many non French GPs as UK non british GPs.
 
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