Brexit, for once some facts.

[Wicky]

Got any proof?

Did Trump Say Republicans Are the Dumbest Group of Voters?

Donald Trump purportedly said that Republicans are the dumbest group of voters in a 1998 'People' magazine interview.

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Fact Check: Did Trump say in '98 Republicans are dumb?

A meme claims Trump told People magazine Republicans are \

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No, Trump Never Told People Magazine That Republicans Are "The Dumbest" Voters

It's a big fat fake.

www.buzzfeednews.com

 

[oldgroaner]

I tell you what if you can prove it's true I will buy you an e bike of your choice

Don't bother, I checked back and you were right! out of interest I went back to the Oprah Winfrey interview that the image was extracted from

Now here is the thing, in that interview we see a very different man from the creature he has become, back then he made a much more convincing argument.
Now he has degenerated to the level where he no longer can be taken as other than no longer firing on all cyclinders
A tragic decline into Dementia in fact.

 

[oldgroaner]

Did Trump Say Republicans Are the Dumbest Group of Voters?

Donald Trump purportedly said that Republicans are the dumbest group of voters in a 1998 'People' magazine interview.

www.snopes.com

Fact Check: Did Trump say in '98 Republicans are dumb?

A meme claims Trump told People magazine Republicans are \

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No, Trump Never Told People Magazine That Republicans Are "The Dumbest" Voters

It's a big fat fake.

www.buzzfeednews.com

Yes indeed it is a fake, but see the Oprah Winfrey interview where the image came from

He was lucid and convincing back then, not now!
And when you think about it the false message under the image was simply the truth about what happened

 

[oldgroaner]

But China isn't backed by UN / United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) with its islands and territorial claims.

Carriers move around in International waters or friendly countries territorial waters. Maybe East Asian nations should cooperate in resurrecting Project Habakkuk and parking that in the mix...

Can't get the sawdust these days

 

[Wicky]

"Chunt had Stephen Hawking killed - that one's just a theory"

 

[Danidl]

that was perceptive fingers, and I agree

When the messenger becomes the message , it leads to confusion. An ambassador is a messenger

 

[flecc]

For many of the world’s largest economies, the South China Sea is an essential maritime crossroads for trade. Over 64 percent of China’s maritime trade transited the waterway in 2016, while nearly 42 of Japan’s maritime trade passed through the South China Sea in the same year. The United States is less reliant on South China Sea, with just over 14 percent of its maritime trade passing through the region.

So what is the problem. The Channel is a very important international trade route, but it's in territorial waters claimed as owned largely by us and France. There is an internationally recognised freedom to navigate the world's seas which we recognise, and it appears China does too, since I'm not aware of any attempts by them to stop any of the world's trade shipping in those seas.

The figures you've given show only too well the USA has little justification for its present stance in that Northern Pacific area. They are just being their usual thuggish selves.
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[flecc]

Maybe East Asian nations should cooperate in resurrecting Project Habakkuk and parking that in the mix...

They don't need to. We've carelessly built one too many and are going to sell the second, so the betting is it will be going very cheaply.
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[flecc]

Problem is they are literally making islands to process to stake their claim, weaponising them so turfing them off will be very difficult as they ratchet up their claim... even though United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) says their claim is invalid.

In truth they are capping existing reefs and sand bars to make them into stable islands, so they aren't really creating anything. Nor are they disrupting shipping since they avoid these areas where they can run aground or suffer hull damage. New volcanic islands and atolls are popping up or disappearing all the time in the Pacific, are they illegal?

And as for converting the old English names into Chinese for these outcrops, that makes them the new owners since they weren't being defended by Britain.

The UN can't have it both ways. Either land claimed by possession or conquer as we've so often done is legal, or it isn't.

Goose and gander again.
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[Fingers]

In truth they are capping existing reefs and sand bars to make them into stable islands, so they aren't really creating anything. Nor are they disrupting shipping since they avoid these areas where they can run aground or suffer hull damage. New volcanic islands and atolls are popping up or disappearing all the time in the Pacific, are they illegal?

And as for converting the old English names into Chinese for these outcrops, that makes them the new owners since they weren't being defended by Britain.

The UN can't have it both ways. Either land claimed by possession or conquer as we've so often done is legal, or it isn't.

Goose and gander again.
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So you are rewriting international law to prove you are not wrong?

This will make for an interesting referral in the future when you are wrong again but use law to back you up.

Oh and can you tell me the last time a volcano just 'popped' up?

Lol. Too funny.

 

[Fingers]

So what is the problem. The Channel is a very important international trade route, but it's in territorial waters claimed as owned largely by us and France. There is an internationally recognised freedom to navigate the world's seas which we recognise, and it appears China does too, since I'm not aware of any attempts by them to stop any of the world's trade shipping in those seas.

The figures you've given show only too well the USA has little justification for its present stance in that Northern Pacific area. They are just being their usual thuggish selves.
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Wrong again.

They are there at the specific request of Japan.

Plus they are as entitled as any country to sail in international waters. Or is that now illegal in your new world order?

 

[gray198]

he was the only PM who left more money in the country's kitty when he left than when he first came it.
Not Margaret Thatcher, not Tony Blair, not Gordon Brown, not David Cameron, not TM and probably not BJ.
He is the most conscientious of the lot.

he's the one that signed the Maastricht Treaty

 

[flecc]

Oh and can you tell me the last time a volcano just 'popped' up.

I didn't say they did, I said volcanic islands and atolls pop up. They are driven up by volcanic activity, most often on the rims of calderas formed by the collapse of an undersea volcano's cone.

They form and erode all the time. Most of the lasting ones are are mapped since they are in regions prone to the activity.
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[Fingers]

I didn't say they did, I said volcanic islands and atolls pop up. They are driven up by volcanic activity, most often on the rims of calderas formed by the collapse of an undersea volcano's cone.

They form and erode all the time. Most of the lasting ones are are mapped since they are in regions prone to the activity.
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I'm not too bad on basic geology. But thank you for the info.

I was just asking when the last volcano 'popped up'. You said they happen all the time so I assumed you would know when the last one was and maybe the one before that even?

One this century would be a start.

 

[flecc]

Plus they are as entitled as any country to sail in international waters. Or is that now illegal in your new world order?

Of course they are, I just posted that didn't I?

But it doesn't give them the right to regard themselve as the sole international police in in other areas of the world. China has at least the legal rights they have in the China seas, morally rather more.

You'll see that become increasingly clear in your lifetime.
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[flecc]

I assumed you would know when the last one was and maybe the one before that even?

I doubt anyone knows with confidence. The loss of the centre of a long Pacific atoll was noticed quite recently, turning it into two islands, but no-one knows when that undersea volcanic subsidence happened, only that a caldera was suspected. I can't remember the source where I learnt this and saw the aerial photo.
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[oyster]

Except that Boris was born in New York? or so I'm told

And so was Oliver Hardy.

Stan Laurel and Jeremy Hunt were born in the UK.

 

[Fingers]

Of course they are, I just posted that didn't I?

But it doesn't give them the right to regard themselve as the sole international police in in other areas of the world. China has at least the legal rights they have in the China seas, morally rather more.

You'll see that become increasingly clear in your lifetime.
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Ok mate.

 

[oldgroaner]

"Chunt had Stephen Hawking killed - that one's just a theory"

Now there is the very man we need to send as Ambassador to Trump's Kingdom!

 

[oldgroaner]

Why is it that this Oakeshott woman hasn't been invited to "help the police with their enquiries" over the leaked Ambassadorial cables?