Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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That TM spoils so many things. JC had been due to visit our local cheese factory. (Not that I knew until I read this.)

LABOUR party leader Jeremy Corbyn has cancelled a visit to Haverfordwest today (Thursday).

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The MP had been due to visit the First Milk dairy in Merlins Bridge.


But following news of the Prime Minister giving a statement on Brexit to Parliament, Mr Corbyn has had to cancel.


Mr Corbyn had then been due to travel to Carmarthen for a members-only event, before knocking doors around the town as part of a canvassing session.


https://www.milfordmercury.co.uk/news/pembrokeshire_news/17240865.labour-leader-jeremy-corbyn-to-visit-haverfordwest-today/
 
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tillson

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Based on past performance, that's almost certainly an emphatic no!

Tom
In addition to Brexit, she is supposed to be tackling the gambling scourge on our high streets. A source of great misery, suffering and suicide. The leeches who manufacture this heartache are warning that their profits will be hit and jobs will be lost if the gambling reforms are too restrictive. They want weak & vulnerable people to continue losing £100 every 20 seconds on their bandit machines.

Let’s look at one of these parasites, Denise Coates, boss of Bet365, a company no doubt responsible for numerous suicides, broken families and much suffering. The reward for her contribution to society, £265000 a day and a bank balance of £4,600,000,000. This is just the sort of person the government likes to fawn over, impressed by wealth & apparent (in their eyes) success. Rest assured, nothing meaningful will happen. The alcohol pushers enjoy a similar hold over the HoC.

Another Theresa May botched initiative.
 

tommie

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Well I did ask the person who posted that name,and he has as yet not responded.
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You probably mean this half-wit.

Btw you still havent commented on how the poor Irish `neutral` folk will take to your friends new European Army?
How do you see conscription going there in Co. Louth?
Can`t see your TD being overly enthuastic?? !!
 

tommie

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And this is the EU that our resident lefty extremists would have us be part of,,, The 4th Reich has been revealed.


'Give up SOVEREIGNTY to EU' Merkel's swipe at UK amid threat to DERAIL Brexit
ANGELA Merkel has suggested countries should be willing to give up control over their own affairs and let organisations such as the European Union have more power in a veiled swipe at Brexit, as the German Chancellor threatens to derail Britain's exit from the bloc.

Speaking at an event organised by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin today, the outgoing leader of the Christian Democratic Union argued that countries should be prepared to make concessions in an “orderly procedure”.

She said parliaments should make the decision to sign such contracts, reports German news channel Welt.

Mrs Merkel, who last month announced she was controversially stepping down as leader of her party but not as Chancellor of Germany despite previously saying the two roles go hand in glove, said ceding power to a superstate is a better form of patriotism.

She told the event, titled ‘Parliamentarianism Between Globalisation and National Sovereignty’: "In this day nation states must today - should today, I say - be ready to give up sovereignty.

"But of course in an orderly procedure.”

Mrs Merkel said that countries who think “they can solve everything on their own” are simply nationalistic and not patriotic because they “only think about themselves.”

She said: "Either you are one of those who believe they can solve everything on their own and only have to think about themselves. That is nationalism in its purest form.

“This is not patriotism. Because patriotism is if you include others in the German interest and accept win-win situations."

Mrs Merkel made an impassioned speech calling for countries to give power to the EU
Mrs Merkel made the comments during a speech defending a United Nations agreement on migration which regulates the treatment of migrants around the world.
 

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“This is not patriotism. Because patriotism is if you include others in the German interest and accept win-win situations”



Some of the lemmings on here would take that in a second. Obviously there is no agenda from the Germans who are in the black to almost to the Euro the rest of the EU membere are in the red.
 
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oldgroaner

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You probably mean this half-wit.

Btw you still havent commented on how the poor Irish `neutral` folk will take to your friends new European Army?
How do you see conscription going there in Co. Louth?
Can`t see your TD being overly enthuastic?? !!
Working late Tommie? posting near midnight? on whose behalf?
And the front end of your Pantomime horse is too (by coincidence) and posts within a couple of minutes in support.
 
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oldgroaner

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“This is not patriotism. Because patriotism is if you include others in the German interest and accept win-win situations”



Some of the lemmings on here would take that in a second. Obviously there is no agenda from the Germans who are in the black to almost to the Euro the rest of the EU membere are in the red.
You're working late as well, after midnight? my goodness it must be hard work being employed in a Pantomine horse with hours like that!

By the way you even misunderstood what the lemmings quote implies, you and Tommie, (the other half of the Pantomime Horse) are the ones who want to jump off a cliff like lemmings allegedly do, not the Remainers on here

You've made a fool of yourself again, I recommend in future you go to bed earlier more sleep might help and yes I am up early, but I went to bed early too..
 
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oldgroaner

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And this is the EU that our resident lefty extremists would have us be part of,,, The 4th Reich has been revealed.


'Give up SOVEREIGNTY to EU' Merkel's swipe at UK amid threat to DERAIL Brexit
ANGELA Merkel has suggested countries should be willing to give up control over their own affairs and let organisations such as the European Union have more power in a veiled swipe at Brexit, as the German Chancellor threatens to derail Britain's exit from the bloc.

Speaking at an event organised by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin today, the outgoing leader of the Christian Democratic Union argued that countries should be prepared to make concessions in an “orderly procedure”.

She said parliaments should make the decision to sign such contracts, reports German news channel Welt.

Mrs Merkel, who last month announced she was controversially stepping down as leader of her party but not as Chancellor of Germany despite previously saying the two roles go hand in glove, said ceding power to a superstate is a better form of patriotism.

She told the event, titled ‘Parliamentarianism Between Globalisation and National Sovereignty’: "In this day nation states must today - should today, I say - be ready to give up sovereignty.

"But of course in an orderly procedure.”

Mrs Merkel said that countries who think “they can solve everything on their own” are simply nationalistic and not patriotic because they “only think about themselves.”

She said: "Either you are one of those who believe they can solve everything on their own and only have to think about themselves. That is nationalism in its purest form.

“This is not patriotism. Because patriotism is if you include others in the German interest and accept win-win situations."

Mrs Merkel made an impassioned speech calling for countries to give power to the EU
Mrs Merkel made the comments during a speech defending a United Nations agreement on migration which regulates the treatment of migrants around the world.
Why are you complaining? your vote for Brexit accelerated this process, so you can hardly complain, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen, after all we have benefited by giving up sovereignty to be part of the United Kingdom, haven't we?
You really don't have the slightest idea of how the world works do you.
Tommie, you need better material than this crap you have been given to post.
 
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oldgroaner

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Heres another snippet
"Jon Snow - Hand on heart.. do you believe this deal is better than what we have at the moment? Rory Stewart(Ministry of Justice) - It respects the result of the referendum... I'm not arguing it's going to be a huge economic improvement. "

So it respects a scammed referendum?
 

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Mrs Merkel made the comments during a speech defending a United Nations agreement on migration which regulates the treatment of migrants around the world.
There is no such thing. There is a text, non binding, with recommendations on handling migrant crisis around the world. There is no agreement on support of this text - Trump didn't like it then all his mates jumped on the bandwagon. The UN does not have the mandate to regulate that which is regulated by sovereign nations.

Fake news!
 

tillson

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Oh dear, all not at all well in EU Mafia land,

the natives are restless :D

Pedro Sánchez‏Verified account @sanchezcastejon

After my conversation with Theresa May, our positions remain far away. My Government will always defend the interests of Spain. If there are no changes, we will veto Brexit.
Nice to see the EU aspiration of eradicating nationalism and pulling together as one working so well. Wait a minute........

This is a shining example of why the EU model can never work in its present form. It’s a pan full of very different and incompatible cultures, interests and ambitions pulling in different directions to serve individual national interests. The EU can’t and won’t prosper without major reform.
 

oldtom

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And this is the EU that our resident lefty extremists would have us be part of,,, The 4th Reich has been revealed.
Twaddle from an activist of the Orange Order, the despicable clowns who still dress up and march, intimidating the Irish nationalist population of the north of Ireland and who are responsible for the apartheid which has left the six counties torn asunder.

Tom
 

oldgroaner

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Oh dear, all not at all well in EU Mafia land,

the natives are restless :D

Pedro Sánchez‏Verified account @sanchezcastejon

After my conversation with Theresa May, our positions remain far away. My Government will always defend the interests of Spain. If there are no changes, we will veto Brexit.
Is there a "Mafia Land " in the EU? well I never, are you running out of insults now?
And as usual you haven't a clue to how the EU works have you?
Spain doesn't have the power to veto the deal does it?
Once again you have been provided with nonsense to post
 
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oldgroaner

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Nice to see the EU aspiration of eradicating nationalism and pulling together as one working so well. Wait a minute........

This is a shining example of why the EU model can never work in its present form. It’s a pan full of very different and incompatible cultures, interests and ambitions pulling in different directions to serve individual national interests. The EU can’t and won’t prosper without major reform.
Just one problem tillson, it does,and we won't stop that by leaving, and regarding Gibraltar,what nation wouldn't object to having part of its land under foreign ownership?
This dispute long predates the EEC and the EU
 

anotherkiwi

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Nice to see the EU aspiration of eradicating nationalism and pulling together as one working so well. Wait a minute........

This is a shining example of why the EU model can never work in its present form. It’s a pan full of very different and incompatible cultures, interests and ambitions pulling in different directions to serve individual national interests. The EU can’t and won’t prosper without major reform.
Isn't it rather the illustration of a long running conflict between Spain and the UK? A conflict which was calmed down when the UK joined the EU.

In 2000, a political declaration of unity was signed by the members of the Gibraltar Parliament; it stated "In essence the declaration stated that the people of Gibraltar will never compromise, give up or trade their sovereignty or their right to self-determination; that Gibraltar wants good, neighbourly, European relations with Spain; and that Gibraltar belongs to the people of Gibraltar and is neither Spain's to claim (n)or Britain's to give away."

My bold text.
 

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