Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

At last - the really, really important issues are being discussed on BBC website:

Grand National 'could be hit by no deal Brexit' warns racing group
By Clare Matheson

Next year's Grand National could look very different if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, the British Horseracing Authority warns.

Crashing out of the EU would potentially have a huge impact on Irish trainers and Irish horses.

And it could see the end of the Tripartite Agreement system which allows horses to be easily moved between the UK, France and Ireland.

 

[oldgroaner]

One comment:

Thanks to Damian Green bottling it, the purpose built lorry park that has been spomen about countless times andvplanned for countless times still hasnt been built. So we will get total gridlock here in Kent, thanks Green. Youve lost my vote, especially you being a remain er, while your constituents voted leave.

This person thinks that a lorry park equivalent to 13 miles of motorway is a sensible, viable approach to the issue? It would stop gridlock? It would be a good way of spending our money? (Along with paying for our own UK-Galilieo-Light.)

I was toying with the thought that if you line the M20 with portable toilets, imagine the spectacle of the World biggest Le mans type start and pulling up of baggy jeans. if news comes down the line the the traffic is moving at the docks!
It would make a great cult movie along the lines of "The Great Race"

My suggestion is that each toilet should have "race start" lights inside...
Or even better "Red Alert "sirens and a display to show how many seconds to immediate launch?

 

[oyster]

Also on BBC website - the amazing, couldn't-be-predicted issue:

Customs workload will soar on no-deal Brexit warn experts
By Justin Bones Business reporter

The story goes on:

"They may have thought the import and export declarations are just a simple thing they can do and don't have much idea about how complex the transactions would be.

"It takes between two to five years to train to be a customs broker."

Isn't part of the problem that we have no idea what sort of relationship will exist, therefore no idea whether a customs broker will be required. Nor whether the training existing customs brokers have is the right training for post-brexit EU trade.

Yet another thing we really can't get going with until the decisions are made and the practical handling defined. Which rather implies insufficient customs brokers for as far as we can see is brexit goes ahead as the current mess it is.

 

[oyster]

I was toying with the thought that if you line the M20 with portable toilets, imagine the spectacle of the World biggest Le mans type start and pulling up of baggy jeans. if news comes down the line the the traffic is moving at the docks!
It would make a great cult movie along the lines of "The Great Race"

My suggestion is that each toilet should have "race start" lights inside...
Or even better "Red Alert sirens and a display to show how many seconds to immediate launch?

Afraid my thought was just how do they empty them? You need the collection lorry to stop every few metres when at least the hard shoulder is already occupied. As there will be traffic on the motorway, a slow-moving collection vehicle looking for a vacant space to stop just might not be a super-safe thing to operate.

If I were a truck driver, I'd be very tempted to install a tube from the cab to avoid having to use the portaloos most of the time.

Also, when Glasto comes around, there will be a great shortage of portaloos.

Aha! Opportunity of brexit - portaloo maker.

 

[oldgroaner]

Afraid my thought was just how do they empty them? You need the collection lorry to stop every few metres when at least the hard shoulder is already occupied. As there will be traffic on the motorway, a slow-moving collection vehicle looking for a vacant space to stop just might not be a super-safe thing to operate.

If I were a truck driver, I'd be very tempted to install a tube from the cab to avoid having to use the portaloos most of the time.

Also, when Glasto comes around, there will be a great shortage of portaloos.

Aha! Opportunity of brexit - portaloo maker.

Not to mention Elsan Blue sales will quickly overtake those of Ad Blue!
I've solved the loo emptying problem, we just have a full light come on on the roof and a fleet of Chinooks flying in "Cab rank" formation swoop in and swop an empy loo for the full one.. simples.
Then fly off to the the brand new sewage farm to process the contents.

On a more practical note the lorry drivers will render these arrangements obsolete by either filling used soft drink bottles and tossing them out of the window in the time honoured fashion, or nipping between the tractor and trailer.
off course the simplest way to solve the problem is to fit lorries with Porta Potties as in Motor homes.
Because that's the logical answer it's hardly surprising the Government won't stumble across it!

 

[oldtom]

Dear oh dear oh dear!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156601015411100

Tom

 

[oyster]

Dear oh dear oh dear!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156601015411100

Tom

Any hint of what is there? I won't do facebook.

 

[flecc]

And it could see the end of the Tripartite Agreement system which allows horses to be easily moved between the UK, France and Ireland.

So meat pies could get much more expensive.
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[flecc]

Paid for with the €1.4bn that hasn't yet been (and surely never will be) refunded as UK's contribution to Galilo. It is a start towards the €10bn to replicate what already exists - with a guessed 20 year cost of €20bn.

There has been much criticism of the cost of Galileo - of the EU spending out of control variety - especially from those now so well-known for their brexit views despite the cost being spread across however many EU partners. Yet now they (or at least, the UK government driven by their madcapppery) are planning for a wholly separate UK-only version?

Isn't Galileo an absolute classic of something that is unaffordable for a modest country but, by combining 28 countries, suddenly appears achievable?

Finally, just what would make Apple, Samsung, BQ, Huawei, Samsung, Meizu and Sony bother to include UK-Galileo-Light? Bicycle navigation devices from Garmin, etc? Even worse, in the more specialist markets such as surveying equipment where UK sales will be a niche in a niche in a niche, will anyone ever make compatible equipment?

£100 million is the sort of amount that would hardly get the project going but would be a very helpful amount in some other area(s) of government spending.

Not to mention that we have no launch vehicles for satellites, and indeed have never been able to design a viable space vehicle. That's why we conceded space exploration and satellite launching to the French Ariane under the EU banner.
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[oyster]

So meat pies could get much more expensive.
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I *still* call Shirgar butter "horse butter" - despite the spelling. Now that was an expensive pie!

Horse = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shergar
Butter = http://gowerviewfoods.co.uk/products/

 

[oyster]

Not to mention that we have no launch vehicles for satellites, and indeed have never been able to design a viable space vehicle. That's why we conceded space exploration and satellite launching to the French Ariane under the EU banner.
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Though the first fourteen were, it seems, launched atop Soyuz-STB/
Fregat-MT.

 

[flecc]

Though the first fourteen were, it seems, launched atop Soyuz-STB/
Fregat-MT.

Yes, Ariane reliability still had to be improved back then. The Russians have always led in launch reliability.
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[oldtom]

Any hint of what is there? I won't do facebook.

It's JRM explaining how the Irish border problem can be overcome......and displaying his complete lack of understanding and total insensitivity about matters Irish.

In other words, he would go to any lengths to ensure the UK is not part of the EU and not required to abide by any new regulations in regard to tax havens.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

Politics is pretty simple for me as this infographic describes:



Tom

 

[oyster]

It's JRM explaining how the Irish border problem can be overcome......and displaying his complete lack of understanding and total insensitivity about matters Irish.

In other words, he would go to any lengths to ensure the UK is not part of the EU and not required to abide by any new regulations in regard to tax havens.

Tom

Ah - thanks.

'Have people inspected' at Irish border after Brexit, says Rees-Mogg

Critics deride suggestion of return to arrangements ‘as we had during the Troubles’

Jacob Rees-Mogg has sparked a fresh row about the status of the Irish border after Brexit after a video emerged in which he suggests a return to checks “as we had during the Troubles”.


The Conservative MP is seen on the footage from the public meeting suggesting the government could “keep an eye on” the border.


“Ireland would not be a free for all. It would be perfectly possible to continue with historic arrangements to ensure that there wasn’t a great loophole in the way people can get into the UK, to leave us in as bad a position as we are already in,” Rees-Mogg says.

 

[oldgroaner]

Ah - thanks.

'Have people inspected' at Irish border after Brexit, says Rees-Mogg

Critics deride suggestion of return to arrangements ‘as we had during the Troubles’

Jacob Rees-Mogg has sparked a fresh row about the status of the Irish border after Brexit after a video emerged in which he suggests a return to checks “as we had during the Troubles”.


The Conservative MP is seen on the footage from the public meeting suggesting the government could “keep an eye on” the border.


“Ireland would not be a free for all. It would be perfectly possible to continue with historic arrangements to ensure that there wasn’t a great loophole in the way people can get into the UK, to leave us in as bad a position as we are already in,” Rees-Mogg says.

The Army will be too busy delivering food Parcels, unless we can get the Red Cross to do it!

 

[oyster]

The Army will be too busy delivering food Parcels, unless we can get the Red Cross to do it!

But only the British Red Cross - don't want no lousy foreign immigrant Red Cross. And aren't they associated with some Red Crescent Muslim thing? My word no!

 

[oldtom]

The Army will be too busy delivering food Parcels, unless we can get the Red Cross to do it!

That's amusing but may be not too far removed from the reality; food banks could come under serious pressure and may require plod or perhaps military reservists to assist and ensure order is maintained.

Tom

 

[anotherkiwi]

I just about managed to stop the page jumping around by holding it still with two fingers on the trackpad. That would be two fingers for facebook then?

 

[flecc]

The anti-EU elements have often said the position of Greece is economically hopeless after the bailouts and that they'd never be able to recover.

They were wrong, last week Greece exited bailout debts restrictions, rejoined the eurozones full access and can now borrow on the money markets. It will of course still take years to improve their economic strength, but they are clearly on their way after being able to pay back so much.
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