Brexit, for once some facts.

tillson

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Rotten borough
Median constituency in Scotland is 66,700
Bath had a constitency of 60,996
The facts imply that bath has a disproportionate representation.
The rotten vote was not in Scotland.
The current English idiot woman as you call them received only 29,000 votes from the possible 46,000,000 voters in the uk! Is she even more hated?
Grow up and try to understand the figures.
It has become very clear to me that you are not numerically literate. This makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to engage with you on an intellectual level.
 

oldgroaner

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It has become very clear to me that you are not numerically literate. This makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to engage with you on an intellectual level.
As in not a Numerical fantasist?
Not everyone is privileged to erect dream worlds out of statistics as you are tillson, an Impeccable skill.
There are lies, damn lies, and tillson's Mastery of Numbers :D
We mere mortals stand in awe.:rolleyes:
 

oldgroaner

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Good old Daily Express it reached a new low today
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Open for business: UK 'ready to form trade deals outside EU BEFORE triggering Article 50'
Behold a Zimmerman Telegram attempt.

A blatant attempted pre-emptive strike to undermine the Government's negotiating position and get us ejected from the EU on the worst possible terms.
And of course the readership screamed it's approval as required.
Whatever Putin is paying them it's no less than they deserve.
 

oldgroaner

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Joke of the Day from the Daily Mail

Boris calls for return of Royal Yacht Britannia as floating embassy to drum up billions of pounds of post-Brexit global trade deals
No doubt he will use it as his "Company Car?"

Vote Brexit, and you get Boris a Royal Yacht to pose in....:D:D:D:D

Now we know what became of the £350 million intended for the NHS
The goodness is indeed flowing.
Sorry, I'm having another Mirth attack:confused:
 

tillson

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Good old Daily Express it reached a new low today
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Open for business: UK 'ready to form trade deals outside EU BEFORE triggering Article 50'
Behold a Zimmerman Telegram attempt.

A blatant attempted pre-emptive strike to undermine the Government's negotiating position and get us ejected from the EU on the worst possible terms.
And of course the readership screamed it's approval as required.
Whatever Putin is paying them it's no less than they deserve.
Excellent. Good news for the UK.
 

oldgroaner

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Excellent. Good news for the UK.
How exactly? it completely undermines the trust the EU will have in our integrity and negotiations.
Come on tillson, you are not that daft, you know this is a none too gentle kick in the backside for May and co, and I can't see how even you can welcome a Hard Brexit.
Even your somewhat elastic use of statistics surely cannot perceive an advantage in us simply being booted out.
And then of course what nation will commit to us and upset their trade deals with the EU because they did so? they would have to be even more stupid than we are.
 

oldgroaner

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How exactly? it completely undermines the trust the EU will have in our integrity and negotiations.
Come on tillson, you are not that daft, you know this is a none too gentle kick in the backside for May and co, and I can't see how even you can welcome a Hard Brexit.
Even your somewhat elastic use of statistics surely cannot perceive an advantage in us simply being booted out.
And then of course what nation will commit to us and upset their trade deals with the EU because they did so? they would have to be even more stupid than we are.
The thought occurs that someone should caution the Three Brexiteers not to offer selling manufactured goods, as most of these may not exist when the Foreign companies based here that make them "up sticks" and move to the EU
 

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The stupidity / lies etc etc just continue to shock me.

This was in the Express yesterday:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/711168/Mark-Carney-Bank-of-England-admits-negative-Brexit

The comments are unbelievable.

Do people not realise, the predictions assumed we'd invoke Article 50 after the referendum. The fact that we haven't mean's the predictions are on hold until we do. He's not lied!
yes, well if nothing else the referendum has provided a decision about the compos mentis of the electorate (and not a favourable one)
 
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tillson

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As in not a Numerical fantasist?
Not everyone is privileged to erect dream worlds out of statistics as you are tillson, an Impeccable skill.
There are lies, damn lies, and tillson's Mastery of Numbers :D
We mere mortals stand in awe.:rolleyes:

SNP secure 4.7% of the U.K. Vote and gain 8.5% of the seats in parliament.

Lib Dems Secure 8% of the U.K. Vote and gain 0.15% of the seats in parliament.

UKIP 12% of the vote 0.15% of the seats in parliament.

I think we need a PR voting system.
 
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oldgroaner

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SNP secure 4.7% of the U.K. Vote and gain 8.5% of the seats in parliament.

Lib Dems Secure 8% of the U.K. Vote and gain 0.15% of the seats in parliament.

UKIP 12% of the vote 0.15% of the seats in parliament.

I think we need a PR voting system.
You think? well that's fine, but apparently the Scots think otherwise, and quite rightly as they are a devolved Parliament, not a county.

Your percentages are quite simply of no relevance to the political situation as we are dealing with two distinct political entities thanks to devolution.
I know you enjoy these games with numbers, but that is all they are.;)
 

oldgroaner

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yes, well if nothing else the referendum has provided a decision about the compos mentis of the electorate (and not a favourable one)
As the falling man passed the 80th floor he was heard to cry
"No problems so far!"
Style of thing.
BTW shouldn't that be "Compost" if you know what I mean? ;)
Clearly the paper treats the readers as Mushrooms
Keep them in the dark
And feed them you know what.
Further down the page where they know the readers will have run out of their limited attention span they did print this
"Last month the Bank decided to help Britain’s economy cope with the shock of the referendum decision to leave the European Union with an interest rate cut and stimulus package on a scale not seen since the depths of the global financial crisis. "
His interest rate cut limited the damage and these numpty readers imagine he did that out of spite?
 
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SNP secure 4.7% of the U.K. Vote and gain 8.5% of the seats in parliament.
You keep quoting these numbers... they are not a correct use of the statistics are they!

SNP only stood in Scotland... so you can't quote their UK %, its not relevant.

They actually scored 46.5% of the vote across all the seats they stood in, so that's a higher acceptance rate than any party in the UK. So I'd say she's pretty popular. Also I think you'd find if she stood in a good number of UK constituencies she'd actually be very popular. Her dedication to the people she representing is something to be admired.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland/results
 

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You keep quoting these numbers... they are not a correct use of the statistics are they!

SNP only stood in Scotland... so you can't quote their UK %, its not relevant.

They actually scored 46.5% of the vote across all the seats they stood in, so that's a higher acceptance rate than any party in the UK. So I'd say she's pretty popular. Also I think you'd find if she stood in a good number of UK constituencies she'd actually be very popular. Her dedication to the people she representing is something to be admired.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/scotland/results
Like your interpretation, if applied to the referendum and if NI and Scotland excluded then the leave vote had a majority of 6.8%.
 

tillson

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You are not a disgusting racist though and treat people as you find them.

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No, for example he would not refer to the residents of The Falkland Islands as being inbreed, having never met them.

Thank goodness that you and other similar effluent will remain in the sewers, never destined to have a voice.
 
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Like your interpretation, if applied to the referendum and if NI and Scotland excluded then the leave vote had a majority of 6.8%.
True, and where you draw the boundary on the referendum changes things massively. Proving in reality that where ever you have a border / boundary even if its geographic / age / race etc etc you will have a difference of opinion.

UKIP / Leavers what us to leave the EU, because in some cases they want more local government... so if they keep that process of thought going they soon won't want to be governed by London, and then their county etc etc.
 

derf

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No, for example he would not refer to the residents of The Falkland Islands as being inbreed, having never met them.

Thank goodness that you and other similar effluent will remain in the sewers, never destined to have a voice.
You know what, I think Nige may just have found his new speech writer for that inaugural for his third (or is it fourth?) return to mainstream politics! Sewers, effluent, trying to take away others right to free speech. It's all there. Could we be in the presence of the er embryo of the next UKIP manifesto?
 

tillson

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You know what, I think Nige may just have found his new speech writer for that inaugural for his third (or is it fourth?) return to mainstream politics! Sewers, effluent, trying to take away others right to free speech. It's all there. Could we be in the presence of the er embryo of the next UKIP manifesto?
What?
 

oldgroaner

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Like your interpretation, if applied to the referendum and if NI and Scotland excluded then the leave vote had a majority of 6.8%.
Doing a tillson are you? the referendum was for the whole United Kingdom, but nice try, even though it was an abject failure.:D
 
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