you are, frankly, even more cognitively challenged than i imaginedOh for goodness sake Derf, for 129 pages you keep on repeating the same things that have been answered on numerous occasions. Has your fiddle only got one string
You are like a rabbit that has for the first time been exposed to the glare of economics, and cannot get his eyes open wide enough and is rooted to the spot. One little hop and skip to the safety of the bushes.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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some of the skilled coming to the uk have values and ideas about redistribution and fairness - and dont support the concept of a UK sponging off the rest of the world without giving anything back. I suspect many of us who feel this way may have voited remain. Unfortunately for the die hard brexitters the somewhat corrupt uk political system has conspired to support this way forward (for its own selfish reasons).
freedom of movement is an insurance against market fluctuations. You may for example need a lot of bricklayers in London and not in Boston. If you have to have a point system, then it follows that the workers will need an offer of a job before allowed in, and maybe at the wrong location. That introduces unnecessary viscosity to the market.
The question was, how does the move from controlled immigration, targeting skills and labour shortages to releasing all control improve productivity?
WTF kind of answer have you posted. You have just posted a string of words in close proximity to each other and when taken as a whole mean fook all.
when asked why did you vote for brexit, a large percentage say 'the country is full'
I didn't think you'd be able to answer the question coherently and you haven't disappointed.
If we need bricklayers in the uk
we need bricklayers in the uk. Welcome all bricklayers of Europe, come on in! No viscosity kinematic or dynamic.
Why the distinction between locations? London or Boston?
What percentage? Who's been asked. Are these the same w@nk opinion polls that you were quoting prior to the referendum? The ones that you claimed indicated little desire to leave the EU?
I've just drawn a graph which says the opposite to your claim. There that's your argument countered with equal credibility.
You are a serial poster of unverified & contrived rubbish with very little, if any, basis in fact.
Australia has a point system. It takes more than a year to get a visa to emigrate there.
Market fluctuations have shorter periods, in months, not years, and usually localized. We may have a shortage in London and not elsewhere. In that case, how a point system is going to help?
Well how many people were asked in your opinion poll regarding their reasons for voting out?
What percentage of the 17 million?
Which regions were selected?
What is the age cross section?
What is their academic back ground?
How reliable have the people carrying out the poll been in the past?
Who indeed has carried out the poll?
My insults are born out of frustration that totally meaningless statements are being thrown around. This latest one of yours is a perfect example.
Now please back it up with some supporting data because the statement on its own is an insult.
First of all, Australia is another country on the opposite side of the globe. It does not necessarily mean that the UK will have the same administrative procedures.
A lean and efficient system in the UK could work. We learn from the shortcomings in other systems and we improve.
you did not like copy and paste charts, here is a link. Lord Ashcroft did his own poll after the referendum. About a third put immigration first. Another third put in in second place.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/did-britain-really-vote-brexit-to-cut-immigration/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/29/did-britain-really-vote-brexit-to-cut-immigration/
Tillson, I used the word market fluctuations. Any future control on EU freedom of movement will not help smoothing out market fluctuations. The most we would come up with is to have emergency brakes on EU freedom of movement for longer period, 10-20 years.
I see, so your ascertain that the great unwashed only voted out because they wanted to stop migration is based one poll which questioned less than 0.07% of those who actually voted out and was conducted by YouGov, an organisation with a proven track record of failure to predict an outcome.
Thank you for clarifying that point.
Surely an oxymoron. Living in the town where the Home Office Immigration centre is housed I know only to well how slowly their processes operate.
A points controlled immigration system would seriously impede responses to skilled labour needs, just as it does in Australia. We can't even react within two years for more urgent matters such as ascertaining whether someone should be deported and acting upon that.
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Flud,in the south east it was all about immigration,the interview with the old guys playing Golf in Essex that the BBC made,every one of those guys mentioned immigration...overcrowded schools,too many languages,long queues at doctors,difficulty with getting social housing,low farm wages....they blamed it all on EE migrants.
I dont see it that way,these immigrants are doing the jobs that most Brits dont want to do,at wages that may conflict with their benefits-better to laze at home and baby farm!. The schools/doctors/council housing problems are all down to lack of investment by all governments.....taking away the income producers and tax paying EE migrants is surely going to make matters worse,farm wages have always been low.
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A key voice has just been added to yours Dave. On the BBC Radio 4 news a few minutes ago, Menzies (Ming) Campbell was wishing to have a bet with the interviewer that we will not leave the EU.
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Is a Liberal Democrat has been a key voice?
I assume that was an attempt at irony.
Even 'has been' is pushing it a bit.
Politically, Campbell is a 'never was and never will be'.
