Brexit, for once some facts.
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Names! We want a full list by sundown.A little humour
I’ve had a niggling doubt confirmed today. If I use the NHS Covid App and check into a venue, my presence at that venue isn’t cleared from the system until 23:59:59 that day.
So, if I check into a Café at 10:30 am and leave at 10:45, the App thinks I’m still there at mid-night. There is no method of checking out. Therefore, if someone visits the same Café between 16:45 and 17:45 (six hours after I left), and subsequently tests positive, I will be instructed to isolate because the App thinks I’ve spent 1 hour in their presence. This is our world beating App.
So, if I check into a Café at 10:30 am and leave at 10:45, the App thinks I’m still there at mid-night. There is no method of checking out. Therefore, if someone visits the same Café between 16:45 and 17:45 (six hours after I left), and subsequently tests positive, I will be instructed to isolate because the App thinks I’ve spent 1 hour in their presence. This is our world beating App.
Infections have risen to 36000 cases today. What will that translate to in terms of hospitalisation in a weeks time? And what will the combination of Euro celebrations and the scrapping of all Covid measures translate to in terms of infection rates?
How can this end well?
How can this end well?
The numbers infected are having a significant effect on available staff in the NHS, especially hospitals. That is impacting capacity. Even if the number of hospitalisations doesn't reach the heights it previously did, the impact could be as bad or worse.
High rate of infection in the northeast/tyneside (730 to 830/100000) has created reservoirs of infection that's given the virus more chance to replicate - and mutate. It has resulted in a new signal PHE is investigating as a potential new variant of concern (see "I" news). Boris is playing Russian roulette with a revolver in which each of the many many rounds are loaded.
Johnson has bet absolutely everything on the vaccine. He has nothing else. If he doesn’t win, our losses are going to be very heavy. My fear is, the vaccine isn’t a very good hand.
It makes no sense to me. I can understand some of the covid measures being eased, such as those in schools, but why scrap the wearing of face masks on public transport? Why? Imagine being a bus driver. How must the drivers be feeling as 19/07 approaches?
Truth from an earlier time much like our own.
His involvement in a plot to overthrow Adolf Hitler led to his imprisonment and execution.
His involvement in a plot to overthrow Adolf Hitler led to his imprisonment and execution.
I rather liked this tweet
Anti-Bullshit Alien@LennieMerrick1
England 2021: The national football team's manager dresses and talks like a prime minister, and the prime minister dresses and talks like a football yob.
Anti-Bullshit Alien@LennieMerrick1
England 2021: The national football team's manager dresses and talks like a prime minister, and the prime minister dresses and talks like a football yob.
Much is being made of the possibility of changing the parameters of the NHS Covid-19 app.
However, I foresee issues in one direction. I don't think England has realised the same app is (unfortunately) also used in Wales. I doubt they can change the settings for one nation but not the other. (Suppostion based on the fact there are issues with even presenting information in Welsh. Some of it is available in Welsh, some not.)
However, I foresee issues in one direction. I don't think England has realised the same app is (unfortunately) also used in Wales. I doubt they can change the settings for one nation but not the other. (Suppostion based on the fact there are issues with even presenting information in Welsh. Some of it is available in Welsh, some not.)
Johnson has already egged on the people who are of concern, who will (probably already are) avoiding taking any precautions. A minor lifting of the accelerator pedal ain't going to make any difference.
As for the person who got into his car from Wembley without a mask on then encouraging responsible behaviour, why he is a despicable creature who has never understood leading by example.
Boris Johnson may tone down ‘freedom’ rhetoric amid reopening jitters
PM expected to urge public to behave responsibly as polls show widespread concern over end of rules in England
As for the person who got into his car from Wembley without a mask on then encouraging responsible behaviour, why he is a despicable creature who has never understood leading by example.
Boris Johnson may tone down ‘freedom’ rhetoric amid reopening jitters
PM expected to urge public to behave responsibly as polls show widespread concern over end of rules in England
I've said from the beginning that I won't have anything to do with test and trace in any way whatsoever. It's blindingly obvious that this government is incapable of organising anything well and neither of the two tests available is in any way reliable.
My approach is protection all the time, wearing a face mask in indoor locations where others are present and maintaining my almost totally isolated life. These I will maintain indefinitely until it's clear the virus really is under control long term.
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This is what puzzles me. I don’t think there is wide spread desire to lift all Covid safety measures. I think people are pretty much ok with the way things are at present and they don’t think going any further is wise or safe. So why are they doing it?
I’m not convinced the link between infection and hospitalisation / death had been severed, as Johnson suggests.
Why are they doing it?
It's the needs of the economy.
They can no longer afford to pay people not to work.
They've had to stop the Universal Credit boost they applied for the pandemic.
They have to get productivity back up to full tilt.
So they need to convince people that going back to normal is safe enough and their income support cuts are appropriate. That these are not true is irrelevant when they have no other choice due to the country going broke.
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Well now ...
Government officials are examining whether fully vaccinated NHS workers could be allowed to forgo self-isolation in order to curb a healthcare staffing crisis amid a rapid spread of Covid infections.
Downing Street said on Friday it was considering whether ending the requirement to self-isolate if “pinged” by the NHS Covid app could be brought forward for NHS staff. The requirement is due to end for all fully vaccinated individuals on 16 August.
Which seems to undermine the claims that the NHS is doing just fine.
And if it is OK for NHS staff, what reason could there be to expect others still to self-isolate?
Someone nearby arrived back yesterday from cancer chemo - advised to avoid people due to extreme susceptibility. Should the staff treating him have avoided self-isolation? Or is it intended to reduce the number of cancer patients?
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Apart from workers in the nhs becoming nodes for further spread of the virus (like workers in care homes before) as the become infected despite vaccination. It brings to mind the evolution of hospital acquired infections/superbugs. Wish I were wrong, but it seems increasingly a replay of the start of the pandemic (and herd immunity)
I think the government should decriminalise murder. They would of course not condone it, but leave it to the common sense of the people not to commit it. To set an example they personally would refrain from murdering people (except sometimes they might just slip up on that).