How do we know? Either way.
(MInd, I strongly suspect he wouldn't have been the one who paid for the cigar, if it did happen.)
Brexit, for once some facts.
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(MInd, I strongly suspect he wouldn't have been the one who paid for the cigar, if it did happen.)
The incident was first reported when BJ and Cameron were about 5 years old. Some idiot got in bother for incident years before Boris and Cameron were there. Action then became an urban myth. Proving a negative is impossible. So the mud stook.
BJ totally denied accusation in commons and the Labour MP making claim withdrew comment.
Nobody can prove they didn't do something.
Its been a labour inspired smear.
I think he probably did say it, that would be typical of overstatement to emphasize a point, but it's meaningless. People daily threaten to kill each other, but very rarely actually do.
Certainly the tide does seem to be turning against him now, probably as the true future costs of both Covid and especially Brexit are being realised. The first isn't all his fault, but the blame for the second is certainly very much his. Without his leading the Leave campaign it's likely they would never have got that tiny marginal win.
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He borrowed the tenner and the match to light it.............if it did happen.
Imagine the scene, Gove finally Gets him out, becomes PM and most likely gives Cummings either a lordship or his job back!
Aaaargh
Think I, d rather have Boris than Gove.. Especially if he comes as a pair with Cummings.
Even Gove wouldn't inflict him on the Lords. A knighthood maybe, Sir Dominic Cummings, knighted for services to the nation (Exploration and Ocular research).
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Baron Cummings of Barnard Castle has a nice ring to it.
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You do know that the folk song about Mattie Groves , as sung by Joan Baez amongst others refers to shanigans at Barnard Castle?.
Wikipedia states:
"Matty Groves", also known as "Little Musgrave and Lady Barnard" or "Little Musgrave", is a ballad probably originating in Northern England that describes an adulterous tryst between a young man and a noblewoman that is ended when the woman's husband discovers and kills them. This song exists in many textual variants and has several variant names. The song dates to at least 1613, and under the title Little Musgrave and Lady Barnard is one of the Child Ballads collected by 19th-century American scholar Francis James Child.
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Boris Johnson has said any donations linked to the refurbishment of his Downing Street flat will be declared "in due course".
When he (or whoever else) has managed to cobble something together.
When he (or whoever else) has managed to cobble something together.
It would be such a shame to lose such a talented, popular and efficient PM to a simple dodgy deal over £80k or so going wrong.He will be mourned on here and sadly missed in Northern Towns.
I've been listening to a radio talk series titled "PM at 300", given by Sir Anthony Seldon on the subject of the 300 years existence of the PM's office. Of the 54 PMs spanning that period, he only rates 9 as in any way notable, and I disagree with him on two of those, reducing it to just 7.
Maybe we should step back 300 years and do without Prime Ministers, seeing that 83 to 87% of them have been of such questionable worth and we managed without one for 505 years before?
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I suspect many people living under the various regimes over those 505 years would have welcomed even the worst of the 54 prime minsters that came later.
Sir Dominic Cummings
Last of a long line of dirty knights
Mottto:
Should've gone to Specsavers
It will go nicely his "Hero of the Russian Federation" medal
shame that his special adviser called him 'totally unethical'.
Just a little better than totally untrustworthy.
I seriously think it's time for the Conservatives to
Wake up and smell the Bostic
Some of this will stick!
Wake up and smell the Bostic
Some of this will stick!
In football they say playing decent opposition keeps you honest. Perhaps it's a better saying for politics.
Some of you may remember that in my late 80s I was missed altogether from the list for first vaccinations and I had to chase to get one late, among the seventy year olds.
Since I'm now in the 13th week since I did a bit of covert spying via a health centre staff member and found I had been again missed off the second jab list so would never have been contacted.
Although I hadn't asked her for any action she in fact acted to get me an appointment among the "youngsters" on Friday afternoon the 30th April.
And an improvement. I'd recorded before that the surgery had installed their smartphone app in a bonkers way that blocked their website totally out of use. Since I'm not a smartphone junkie I'd been complaining and they have at last created a new website independently with all the usual contacting included.
Who knows, they might even start carrying out the usual NHS medical services again!
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Since I'm now in the 13th week since I did a bit of covert spying via a health centre staff member and found I had been again missed off the second jab list so would never have been contacted.
Although I hadn't asked her for any action she in fact acted to get me an appointment among the "youngsters" on Friday afternoon the 30th April.
And an improvement. I'd recorded before that the surgery had installed their smartphone app in a bonkers way that blocked their website totally out of use. Since I'm not a smartphone junkie I'd been complaining and they have at last created a new website independently with all the usual contacting included.
Who knows, they might even start carrying out the usual NHS medical services again!
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