Brexit, for once some facts.

[Woosh]

I think the origins go back a little further with embarrassment with Harry's behaviour as much as difficulties with the tabloid press. Prince Charles in particular scarcely hid his anger with Harry at times and that rather set the scene for everything that followed.

so he ends up with an even bigger problem.
The first thing Charles should have done is to show the world which side he is on when the tabloids had a go at his children.
In his place, I would have had a word with the owners of the Mail on Sunday and any other tabloids to tell them that trashing a member of the family and his wife is not acceptable and there will be consequences.
They managed very well to shut down stories with other members before. Did they even try this time? If they did, then it was not with much effort.

 

[flecc]

so he ends up with an even bigger problem.
The first thing Charles should have done is to show the world which side he is on when the tabloids had a go at his children.
In his place, I would have had a word with the owners of the Mail on Sunday and any other tabloids to tell them that trashing a member of the family and his wife is not acceptable and there will be consequences.
They managed very well to shut down stories with other members before. Did they even try this time? If they did, then it was not with much effort.

I doubt they tried, Charles in particular would probably be happy for the source to be far away in California.

I don't think a threat of consequences for the press is viable any more, they'd either ignore it or call his bluff. As you rightly posted recently, the royal family could soon be finished and the press know it. Only today an influential Australian remarked that Australia will become a republic the moment the Queen dies, saying their loyalty is only to her.
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[Woosh]

This country is beset for so long by the tabloids and the Court is the best place to deal with them.

 

[flecc]

This country is beset for so long by the tabloids and the Court is the best place to deal with them.

But how? Only Harry or Meghan can take action on how the tabloids treat them, other members of the family like Charles or William can no more do that than you or I, since not being the victim they cannot be the plaintiff.

It's the same with the Press Complaints Commission who will only accept complaints from the victims.
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[oldgroaner]

Another Brexit disaster
We are not applying customs checks to EU goods for six months?

Exhibit A: All 27 EU countries set up their border controls, their customs & excise controls and built the necessary infrastructure in time for Brexit

Exhibit B: The UK, despite being an EU member for 47 years, cannot.

How on Earth is there a single voter who trusts these government hooligans to actually make Brexit anything other than permanent disaster?

 

[Jesus H Christ]

so he ends up with an even bigger problem.
The first thing Charles should have done is to show the world which side he is on when the tabloids had a go at his children.
In his place, I would have had a word with the owners of the Mail on Sunday and any other tabloids to tell them that trashing a member of the family and his wife is not acceptable and there will be consequences.
They managed very well to shut down stories with other members before. Did they even try this time? If they did, then it was not with much effort.

The Royal Family should not have offered any response. The entire interview with Ginger & Minger consisted of fabricated stories lacking in evidence. The interview was a non-event, a zero, a nothing. The response from the Palace should be the same.

 

[Zlatan]

The Royal Family should not have offered any response. The entire interview with Ginger & Minger consisted of fabricated stories lacking in evidence. The interview was a non-event, a zero, a nothing. The response from the Palace should be the same.

I don't understand why the pair of them attract so much credence, interest or sympathy. It's all quite pathetic.
We, ve got so much going on, so many struggling, so many worried about jobs and businesses and this garbage gets talked about. A silly family feud about nothing, all centred around two overpriviliged, extremely rich fools.
Sums level of their problems up when biggest issue is somebody asked how dark baby would be, oh and Kate told her to wear tights, or some such rubbish. And that made her cry. Should post on here.

 

[Woosh]

let's start at the beginning.
Did Harry and Meghan do their official job well enough for their money before they left the UK?
Answer yes or no will do.

 

[oyster]

The road tunnels I have driven through (Mersey, Thames, Tyne, and probably several others) have all had massive air management systems. This is obviously essential when there are hundreds of ICE vehicles burning vast quantities of fuel.

When - yes, I'll assume we get there - we are all driving electric vehicles, by how much can we scale that down?

Still has to cope with emergencies, of course. Which might include diesel fire engines for many years yet.

 

[flecc]

We are not applying customs checks to EU goods for six months?

Exhibit A: All 27 EU countries set up their border controls, their customs & excise controls and built the necessary infrastructure in time for Brexit

Exhibit B: The UK, despite being an EU member for 47 years, cannot.

It's to be expected. As it was us leaving we had to do all the hard work on the Brexit stuff like arguing, getting bitter and twisted with the EU, worrying, voting on deals, wishful thinking, getting arrogant, being bigoted, fretting, reassuring fishermen, bribing car makers, coping with Nigel Farage, taking the mickey out of Jean-Claude Juncker's odd socks, getting cussed with Michel Barnier, marvel at Theresa May's body shape, passing all the EU laws and regulation we'd accepted over 44 years into UK law under the false title of the Great Repeal Bill, hold parliamentary elections, build hospitals we didn't need to use and get rid of two Prime Ministers.

It's amazing we got all that done in time.

All the 27 had to do was be ready for Brexit, dead simple.
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[oyster]

It's to be expected. As it was us leaving we had to do all the hard work on the Brexit stuff like arguing, getting bitter and twisted with the EU, worrying, voting on deals, wishful thinking, getting arrogant, being bigoted, fretting, reassuring fishermen, bribing car makers, coping with Nigel Farage, taking the mickey out of Jean-Claude Juncker's odd socks, getting cussed with Michel Barnier, marvel at Theresa May's body shape, passing all the EU laws and regulation we'd accepted over 44 years into UK law under the false title of the Great Repeal Bill, hold parliamentary elections, build hospitals we didn't need to use and get rid of two Prime Ministers.

It's amazing we got all that done in time.

All the 27 had to do was be ready for Brexit, dead simple.
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Unfair - Amsterdam had to prepare for a large increase in financial trading. And take on the EMA HQ role.

 

[flecc]

let's start at the beginning.
Did Harry and Meghan do their official job well enough for their money before they left the UK?
Answer yes or no will do.

Yes, and got paid for it.

This weeks wage only pays for this weeks work and they've chucked the job. No job, no rewards is how most of us have had to live.
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[oyster]

A royal family, an inherited monarchy, are surely inherently racist?

If there is no-one in line for the throne from a minority race, no-one from another race can be crowned.

Royal family is 'very much not' racist, says Prince William

 

[Woosh]

so they do or did their job well.
Then why did they get attacked by the tabloids? did it have anything to do with the Royal Family? Did they hurt any of us here in the UK?

 

[Woosh]

Let me suggest something.
The tabloids won't let her forget where she came from.
To me, that's a form of cruel and unacceptable putdown and left her husband with an impossible dilemma. He's forced into spending millions to defend his wife and they were not as wealthy as the tabloids made out.
Charles should have helped financially with the cost of litigation but he left it to the institution which abandoned them.
In their shoes, I'd feel abandoned and would run away too.
They have my sympathy.

 

[wheeler]

Time to smile after Brexit we now have a new World Beater.
British Wind!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369914346403414017

It's Scotland's wind!

 

[flecc]

A royal family, an inherited monarchy, are surely inherently racist?

If there is no-one in line for the throne from a minority race, no-one from another race can be crowned.

Royal families do run out of heirs and bring in outsiders, sometimes outsiders take over anyway like the Normans, so direct racial change can happen. Or it can happen over time by dilution, just look at all the German and Greek blood in ours.
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[oyster]

Royal families do run out of heirs and bring in outsiders, sometimes outsiders take over anyway like the Normans, so direct racial change can happen. Or it can happen over time by dilution, just look at all the German and Greek blood in ours.
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Yes - I certainly agree that over many generations changes can and do happen. But in the predictable future it looks very much like no change.

 

[flecc]

so they do or did their job well.
Then why did they get attacked by the tabloids? did it have anything to do with the Royal Family? Did they hurt any of us here in the UK?

I don't read newspapers so I have no idea. I'm anti royalty anyway.

All I know about this affair is that Harry has been a rebellious person for some while, particularly upsetting Charles and even his brother William, so giving ammunition to the media.

The best way for all the royals to handle the media is do what they've always done, ignore them as unimportant. Like the Church, royalty needs to have an air of of mystery about it for the public to be interested and intrigued and thus support it, so silence is necessary to maintain the mystery.
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[flecc]

The tabloids won't let her forget where she came from.
To me, that's a form of cruel and unacceptable putdown and left her husband with an impossible dilemma. He's forced into spending millions to defend his wife and they were not as wealthy as the tabloids made out.

Like all royals Harry was taught silence and discretion from an early age, so as I've said above he should ignore the media as an irrelevance and help his wife to do the same. Queen Victoria's children, even the most rebellious, held the media in contempt with considerable success.

Spending money or using law to try to defeat the media is madness and makes matters worse.
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