The U.K. invested to a level sufficient for it to be invented here. We ordered and paid for it in April. By contrast, the EU still don’t know if they even want it. They are an administrative joke.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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There was a program last year on the BBC where they had procured a sample of the actual skin of the Hindenberg and had eye witness statements of Orange flames rather than the blue you would expect from burning hydrogen, they applied a high voltage spark to the sample and it burst into flames
Orange flames...
Actually the main investment was from abroad: if you want to give credit anywhere give it to the people who invented it, not some silly flagwaving Little Englander superiority being a factor
That is childish
I posted much earlier we should have invested the full cost of developing the vaccine not thrown some loose change at it, far less in fact than the amount Boris spaffed to chums over PE
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-the-multi-billion-pound-business-of-the-oxford-vaccine-12134833
This is of interest
"It also casts light on the relationship between publicly-funded academia and private finance that increasingly drives scientific innovation, often to the benefit of patients and shareholders, as well as the disquiet of those who mistrust the role of the private sector. "
The absence of any thanks for the money from the UK government is rather telling, isn't it? but how easy to claim credit in the usual right wing fashion
Unless you actually hiked there you don't know.. I was astonished to see how tightly the trains were linked to the infrastructure. Much more like the Wild West with massive engines trundling down the main street of villages without any barriers between them and the public. Now since your interest is in contriving discord, ,I am leaving this topic.
So Boris is visiting Scotland, I wonder if he will recite this poem he penned in his Spectator days
It will go down "Bigly"
It will go down "Bigly"
Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland
Speciality vaccine company Valneva has started commercial manufacturing of its promising COVID-19 vaccine candidate in Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland.
Not little Englander... The Union...
This EU vaccine shambles is a perfect example of their intrinsic problems.
UK would go along and say we want 60 million ASAP... EU would rock up and want 3 billion when all 27 countries have chatted about it for a little while, oh and can Germany have 30 million on side because as we all know they are the best Europeans..
Oh and EU haven't actually passed the vaccine yet!!!???
Come on OG it's a monumental cock up. Imagine what you, d be saying about Boris if this was other way around and we were 3 months behind EU in vaccine programme. You, d be wanting him Lynched... And probably for a change rightly so...
I have spent a great deal of time there, flying down the valleys and over the mountains, often landing in villages or remote farm land. I have a good working knowledge of their infrastructure, I needed that to both transport my balloon equipment to a launch site and to recover it after a flight. I have no hesitation in saying that gives me a better understanding than a man who has been for a walk. Fire trains are silly and exist only in the minds of lunatics.
He will never concede. He is infected with Corbynism and there is no vaccine for that.Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland
Speciality vaccine company Valneva has started commercial manufacturing of its promising COVID-19 vaccine candidate in Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland.www.gov.uk
Not little Englander... The Union...
This EU vaccine shambles is a perfect example of their intrinsic problems.
UK would go along and say we want 60 million ASAP... EU would rock up and want 3 billion when all 27 countries have chatted about it for a little while, oh and can Germany have 30 million on side because as we all know they are the best Europeans..
Oh and EU haven't actually passed the vaccine yet!!!???
Come on OG it's a monumental cock up. Imagine what you, d be saying about Boris if this was other way around and we were 3 months behind EU in vaccine programme. You, d be wanting him Lynched... And probably for a change rightly so...
You are arguing with a man who will not shift from the following principles:
1) No matter how good it is, if it’s from the U.K., it’s bad.
2) No matter how bad it is, if it’s from the EU, it’s good.
3) I’m now protected, so I’m going to advocate giving away the thing that will protect you.
That’s about where we are with him.
Then why wasn’t it invented in France or Germany?
I’ll answer that for you, because the U.K. is good at this sort of thing, has the facilities and they exist through investment.
I mentioned the other day about companies referring to a £135 limit for sales.
Above that, the transaction seems to be treated as trade and potentially subject to duty as well as Import VAT.
A number of companies supplying the UK have started to charge UK Supply VAT on orders below £135 thus avoiding further customs clearance charges. Whereas some other companies are saying they are happy to fulfill the order, but you might be charged Supply VAT and customs clearance charges before delivery. (For simplicity, I am referring only to EU companies which do not have UK websites or presence.)
What I am not 100% clear on is why other companies are refusing all orders below £135. If they just send it without charging any VAT, and you get charged before delivery, why is it a problem to them?
Above that, the transaction seems to be treated as trade and potentially subject to duty as well as Import VAT.
A number of companies supplying the UK have started to charge UK Supply VAT on orders below £135 thus avoiding further customs clearance charges. Whereas some other companies are saying they are happy to fulfill the order, but you might be charged Supply VAT and customs clearance charges before delivery. (For simplicity, I am referring only to EU companies which do not have UK websites or presence.)
What I am not 100% clear on is why other companies are refusing all orders below £135. If they just send it without charging any VAT, and you get charged before delivery, why is it a problem to them?
At one point, large numbers of HP computers would get sent to the Netherlands for repair, if faulty. (Whether they were warranty, extended warranty, or charged repairs.)
How on earth does VAT work for that?
A broken computer is worth almost nothing. So value on export is declared as very low. Once repaired, the value shoots up. So value on re-import is significant. The repair process inherently adds a lot of value (at least, to the computers which can be repaired).
Is there something special about how items being repaired are treated?
How on earth does VAT work for that?
A broken computer is worth almost nothing. So value on export is declared as very low. Once repaired, the value shoots up. So value on re-import is significant. The repair process inherently adds a lot of value (at least, to the computers which can be repaired).
Is there something special about how items being repaired are treated?
Meanwhile the UK are enjoying the advantages of the Biontech Pfizer vaccine developed using EU money ( European Investment Bank) originally given in December 2019 to BioNtech for a cancer treatment and immediately repurposed and then augmented long before any extra money was given to the Jenner by the UK . The EIB then trebled the loan / grant ..and the rest is history.Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland
Speciality vaccine company Valneva has started commercial manufacturing of its promising COVID-19 vaccine candidate in Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland.
Not little Englander... The Union...
This EU vaccine shambles is a perfect example of their intrinsic problems.
UK would go along and say we want 60 million ASAP... EU would rock up and want 3 billion when all 27 countries have chatted about it for a little while, oh and can Germany have 30 million on side because as we all know they are the best Europeans..
Oh and EU haven't actually passed the vaccine yet!!!???
Come on OG it's a monumental cock up. Imagine what you, d be saying about Boris if this was other way around and we were 3 months behind EU in vaccine programme. You, d be wanting him Lynched... And probably for a change rightly so...
Now the EU have requested that AZ publish the actual contract, basically saying that ",while we can ,it takes two to tango. And you now have our permission to make a private contract public" . Would they be likely to grandstand if there was anything to hide?.
Ah, that will have been when the U.K. were still members of the EU then and the second largest financial contributor.
I think it works this way. It is not VAT, it is import and export duties The duty is charged on the value of work done and parts inserted Not the intrinsic value of the machine. It would be viewed as being nett zero. Import duty was paid on initial importation and a refund due on export , which is held in abeyance or bond ,and credited against the subsequent importation.
No. You have your dates wrong. The UK had left in 2019. The period afterwards until this January was a transition phase , where we mutually agreed not to charge each other import duties , and for which the UK paid a temporary guest pass fee.
I would have expected Netherlands Import VAT to apply - with the possibility (but not certainty) of duty as well.
But on the return of the functioning computer, UK Import VAT would apply - again with the possibility (but not certainty) of duty as well.
Difficulties in accounting would arise if the original machine is not returned to the original country. For example, some might get a new replacement but the original failed machine would nonetheless be repaired and then sent to a different customer, possibly in a different country.
Good French company.Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland
Speciality vaccine company Valneva has started commercial manufacturing of its promising COVID-19 vaccine candidate in Livingston, West Lothian, Scotland.
Not little Englander... The Union...
This EU vaccine shambles is a perfect example of their intrinsic problems.
UK would go along and say we want 60 million ASAP... EU would rock up and want 3 billion when all 27 countries have chatted about it for a little while, oh and can Germany have 30 million on side because as we all know they are the best Europeans..
Oh and EU haven't actually passed the vaccine yet!!!???
Come on OG it's a monumental cock up. Imagine what you, d be saying about Boris if this was other way around and we were 3 months behind EU in vaccine programme. You, d be wanting him Lynched... And probably for a change rightly so...
January 28, 2021
- Vaccine production initiated to optimize timeline for potential deliveries
- Phase 1/2 clinical study now fully enrolled; initial data read out expected in April 2021
VLA2001 is currently the only inactivated vaccine candidate in clinical trials against COVID-19 in Europe. A total of 150 healthy adults aged 18 to 55 years have been recruited for the Phase 1/2 study which commenced mid December 2020[1].
https://valneva.com/press-release/valneva-commences-manufacturing-of-its-inactivated-adjuvanted-covid-19-vaccine-completes-phase-1-2-study-recruitment/
Any EU country selling to any other EU country as private sales etc is required to charge VAT. Now selling into the UK they do not need to charge this VAT , but they have a lot of different paperwork to fill up .. which frankly is not worth their bother. Some companies , dealing with luxury and fancy goods, do tend to have made the investment in the software and systems, but most smaller operations just don't bother. There are customs declarations, stickers, monthly returns to revenue , money locked up in bonds etc. You will see for instance, a thriving business in fancy giftware .. Waterford Crystal , Doulton China, Wedgewood exporting direct to Canada or USA. Presumably the markup is sufficient. But I cannot see the German exporter of a Bosch in a competitive market wanting to sell a single Activa display module
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Grrrrr !
How many times? Fire trains are not for fighting those fires, they are for fires on the railways.
Just like airport fire engines are for plane fires, not local buildings.
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I live in hope that one day you will eventually get something right, but with each passing day and with each post you make, that flicker of hope gets steadily dimmed.
The U.K. left the EU at 23:00 hrs GMT on 31 January 2020, so the U.K. was a member of the EU when the Pfizer investment was made during 2019. Good grief, you are hard work.