Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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This is a Tweet about Trump
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Green Asteroid@Green_Asteroid
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@AshaRangappa_

When the story of this era is written, it will be about an amoral criminal raised by an amoral family who became expert at using the communications tools of the day and leveraged the nation’s embedded racism for the incredibly successful mind control of millions.

Now who else could this description fit like a glove? :cool:
 

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Apple and Google have suspended the Parler app. (Though still accessible by browser.)

Interesting how this plays out.
Maybe flecc (*) will be able to talk with his GP practice by Parler?

(*) I think it was flecc having difficulties because his GP practice has installed an absurd online access system that can't be used from a 'real' computer?
 
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oyster

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It appears obvious that Biden will have the smallest inauguration crowd in a very long time. Security concerns alone would dictate that.

Anyone think he will claim that there were more than Trump had for the next four years? Claim that it was the camera angles. Photoshop pictures to prove it.

Or simply accept that inauguration crowd size really is no measure of the president's standing and capability. Indeed, even be proud that they are limiting Covid-19 spread.
 

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I’ve just seen the article regarding the police issuing a fine to those two women walking in the countryside 5 miles from their home. Is that really what the police want to be doing?

Would the police be better deployed at the local Tesco, throwing people out who refuse to wear a piece of tissue over their mouth & nose for a few minutes? Oh, hang on, that’s not as easy as “doing” a couple of women walking in the countryside. The police only tend to do easy these days, so that will explain their idiotic actions in this case.
 

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the FBI will probably interview him shortly.
Schaffer did say later that wasn't Pelosi's computer on the picture.
Maybe he has now realised what he's done. Pelosi's computer or not, he should have known better than bragging about it on twitter.
I have no idea who this guy is or the source, but this looks genuine to me:
The laptop was stolen. It's even reported in the Guardian:

This story gets better and better. Big tech are trying to do everything to shut down communication on this. They're even trying to figure out how to take down Parler. It shouldn't be too difficult with the 90 billion Bezos has gained since the sart of Covid.

Why are they trying to impeach Trump, when he only has a few days left?
 

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I have no idea who this guy is or the source, but this looks genuine to me:
The laptop was stolen. It's even reported in the Guardian:

This story gets better and better. Big tech are trying to do everything to shut down communication on this. They're even trying to figure out how to take down Parler. It shouldn't be too difficult with the 90 billion Bezos has gained since the sart of Covid.

Why are they trying to impeach Trump, when he only has a few days left?
In case he does something even more dangerous?
Like the loonies you subscribe to want?
Anything you consider genuine isn't much of a recommendation is it?
 
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Her name was Ashli Babbitt and was a passionate Trump supporter, more details in the link below. It's from the Guardian though so I doubt you will read it, because you will consider it to be fake news.

If some total stranger with all kinds of hidden agendas (mostly financial) was to read out the report word for word on Youtube you would accept it without question. What a strange world we are all living in.

Woman shot and killed in storming of US Capitol named as Ashli Babbitt | US news | The Guardian
Unfortunately, that is fake news. You have to read the words carefully. She retweeted Lin Wood, a prominent lawyer. Yup, that makes her the most extreme Trump supporter of the worst kind. Other sources say that they examined her PC and found that she had visited a lot of Trump supporter websites. So do I, and they'd make the same conclusion about me, but I'm not a Trump supporter. Her Husband said that she was an ardent Trump supporter, which is why she was there. Lets's say that she was special ops and her husband knew it. Would he have told the reporters that she was there as part of a special ops team to get Pelosis laptop, or would he have said that she was there to protest because she felt passionate about Trump?

It's a bit like Darren Osbourne, who killed all a load of moslems. They found that he had looked at a Tommy Robinson Facebook page, so they then tried to say that he had been radicalised by TR, but at that time TR was the most followed poltical figure in the UK, with 6 million different people viewing his stuff per month. That's 1 in 8 of all the people in the UK. That's why they had to take him down.

To me, the reaction to this event and their attempt to shut down all communication about it says that somebody is trying to hide something.

Other sources are saying something big is about to happen - not your regular conspiracy theorists. What do you reckon?
 
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What an amazingly awful name for the organisation.

The e-mail sent to the GP surgery in Worthing said The Hacking Trust was aware that "many appointments" for vaccinations are not kept, and that it would be interested in being informed of "any no-shows".
A donation of £5,000 would be paid to a staff member or given to charity for each dose it could secure, the e-mail said.
In a statement, the Battersea-based company said it "offered charitable donations to staff or surgeries in this difficult time for any vaccines which were unused".
It added: "We had heard that some vaccines were being unused due to missed appointments. We would apologise that our good intentions have been misinterpreted."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55593210

Amazing it is OUR fault for misinterpreting their actions. Actually reads as if they have misinterpreted the law on conspiracy as it applies to illegally acquiring NHS property. Perhaps it would be better for police to go after them rather than walkers having a coffee?
 

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lockdown as much as possible, not the opposite.
go to work if your work environment is Covid secure, furlough all those who can't work. It would have been 30 times cheaper and far fewer casualties.
The mistake is trying to delay the obvious. This government does that again and again while hoping a different result each time.
If defence is the chosen route after initial disastrous mistakes.

Much more sensible though is Sweden's approach in similar circumstances following their initial slow reaction to Covid. Don't spend countless billions, instead accept the risk of more deaths.

Today Sweden still has less deaths than us pro rata and similar infection levels, but hasn't the vast debt we've created with our desperate attempts at defence. Instead of bossing about and bullying its population and shutting down so many businesses and schools, they largely confined themselves to giving advice to the public, letting them police themselves.
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oldgroaner

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What an amazingly awful name for the organisation.

The e-mail sent to the GP surgery in Worthing said The Hacking Trust was aware that "many appointments" for vaccinations are not kept, and that it would be interested in being informed of "any no-shows".
A donation of £5,000 would be paid to a staff member or given to charity for each dose it could secure, the e-mail said.
In a statement, the Battersea-based company said it "offered charitable donations to staff or surgeries in this difficult time for any vaccines which were unused".
It added: "We had heard that some vaccines were being unused due to missed appointments. We would apologise that our good intentions have been misinterpreted."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55593210

Amazing it is OUR fault for misinterpreting their actions. Actually reads as if they have misinterpreted the law on conspiracy as it applies to illegally acquiring NHS property. Perhaps it would be better for police to go after them rather than walkers having a coffee?
Quite: their good intentions were to make a profit by charging sky high for private vaccinations, are they by any chance one of the recipients of largesse that instantly created companies receive from the government?
 
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If defence is the chosen route after initial disastrous mistakes.

Much more sensible though is Sweden's approach in similar circumstances following their initial slow reaction to Covid. Don't spend countless billions, instead accept the risk of more deaths.

Today Sweden still has less deaths than us pro rata and similar infection levels, but hasn't the vast debt we've created with our desperate attempts at defence. Instead of bossing about and bullying its population and shutting down so many businesses and schools, they largely confined themselves to giving advice to the public, letting them police themselves.
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Well that's great advice for saving the environment, but also a damn good way of hastening human extinction, after all this is going to happen again, according to those that study such things, and if we don't eradicate the damned virus the cost in human misery is going to be off the scale.
So you want us to to go quietly into the Darkness?
After you, I may not live forever but I'd rather die trying to than that.
 
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flecc

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Well that's great advice for saving the environment, but also a damn good way of hastening human extinction, after all this is going to happen again, according to those that study such things, and if we don't eradicate the damned virus the cost in human misery is going to be off the scale.
So you want us to to go quietly into the Darkness?
After you, I may not live forever but I'd rather die trying to than that.
Didn't you read what I posted, Sweden has less deaths pro rata to population.

As I've posted before, ultimately defence pending vaccines doesn't work against pandemics, the disease keeps bouncing back, especially in areas once thought to be successful in avoiding it. Information link
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Why are they trying to impeach Trump, when he only has a few days left?
it's a matter of principle.
Trump needs to be tried again, both in the senate and in a federal Court.
He deserves to be jailed.
 

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Didn't you read what I posted, Sweden has less deaths pro rata to population.

As I've posted before, ultimately defence pending vaccines doesn't work against pandemics, the disease keeps bouncing back, especially in areas once thought to be successful in avoiding it. Information link
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But it is very difficult to separate out the differences like housing density, and who knows what other factors.

We have had around 1,978 per 100,000 from the start of gathering the numbers. Merthyr has almost hit 10,000. Same laws. Same official approach. (Except a relatively short period when Merthyr was a special area with tighter restrictions.) Is it because we are on a windswept corner of the coast?

Why?
 

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Unfortunately, that is fake news. You have to read the words carefully. She retweeted Lin Wood, a prominent lawyer. Yup, that makes her the most extreme Trump supporter of the worst kind. Other sources say that they examined her PC and found that she had visited a lot of Trump supporter websites. So do I, and they'd make the same conclusion about me, but I'm not a Trump supporter. Her Husband said that she was an ardent Trump supporter, which is why she was there. Lets's say that she was special ops and her husband knew it. Would he have told the reporters that she was there as part of a special ops team to get Pelosis laptop, or would he have said that she was there to protest because she felt passionate about Trump?

It's a bit like Darren Osbourne, who killed all a load of moslems. They found that he had looked at a Tommy Robinson Facebook page, so they then tried to say that he had been radicalised by TR, but at that time TR was the most followed poltical figure in the UK, with 6 million different people viewing his stuff per month. That's 1 in 8 of all the people in the UK. That's why they had to take him down.

To me, the reaction to this event and their attempt to shut down all communication about it says that somebody is trying to hide something.

Other sources are saying something big is about to happen - not your regular conspiracy theorists. What do you reckon?
That the loony fringe will try to pull "Custard's last stand" on inauguration day.
Commercial opportunity there to sell hundreds of pocketable tazers
It will all end in farce.
I Think inauguration day will go as dignified as this

And hopefully not cost the lives of more people
 
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