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OxygenJames

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Hope you haven't any elderly relatives in a care home where bullying takes place...

Even General George Patton in WW2 was sidelined for a while as a result of his bullying. The slapping incidents had only further confirmed to Eisenhower that Patton lacked the ability to exercise discipline and self-control at such a command level. Much the same applies to Patel.
'Much the same applies to Patel'. Really? How do you know? Were you there? Did you see the incidents? Why are you so willing to trust the 'victims' rather than the 'bullies' accounts?

And other similar questions come to mind.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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Why call her 'fat-arse' though? So rude. What school did you go to - we were taught never to pick on somebody just because of their physical appearance.
I call her Fat-Arse because she’s got a fat arse, it must be in excess of one metre wide. I think she is a bully, so I don’t mind if it’s rude.

I went to a Rudolf Steiner school. It was brilliant, a really happy place with loads of support from parents, staff and fellow pupils. I loved school.
 
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I’ve seen several cases that have been claimed to be bullying.
Hey. Who knows. Maybe you weren't 'wrong'. Maybe shouting was just the vehicle to get the point over in the least time. I don't know. Sometimes shouting is a perfectly good way to communicate to somebody.
I got shouted at by a Waitrose employee on Thursday. Should I sue?

In fact it led to quite a little saga.

It all started with my decision when passing to pop in for an odd item. Walking from my car to the entrance while day dreaming, I strolled in and heard the lad on the door say something but didn't note it, at which he suddenly shouted very loudly:

MASK!

At which, waking from my reverie, I realised I had absent mindedly not put a mask on. So exiting I said sorry, fished a mask out from my pocket and re-entered putting it on, saying to him "Thank you for reminding me".

End of the matter? Oh no, life is never that simple, the r/h mask strap parted!

So a second exit, showing the broken mask to him as I started going back to the car for another mask. Seconds later he was outside shouting to me again and waving me back. Slightly puzzled I returned to the store maskless and was waved inside to the service counter where he fished out a large new pack of masks, broke it open and offered it for me to take one out. Judging from what I could see of his face beyond the mask I think the poor lad had embarrassed himself with all the un-Waitrose like shouting at a customer!

Possibly the only time the purchase of a bottle of Worcester sauce became almost as involved as it's manufacture!
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Barry Shittpeas

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'Much the same applies to Patel'. Really? How do you know? Were you there? Did you see the incidents? Why are you so willing to trust the 'victims' rather than the 'bullies' accounts?

And other similar questions come to mind.
There is more to it than just the accounts. The man conducting the enquiry has a good CV and seems well respected. Boris Johnson sat on the final report for over two months. Boris Johnson interfered with the enquiry, trying to water the conclusions down. The report author resigned when Boris Johnson undermined him. Boris Johnson is hiding the full report.

To me, this series of events points towards guilt.
 

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I don't know in your case.
I asked my employee to move my car before the traffic warden got to it.
He reversed the car with the driver's door open.
He didn't notice the tree. The door caught the tree trunk.
I shouted 'idiot!' when he came to give me back the car key.
Some may say I was justified but I have no right calling someone an idiot.
People like PP need to be hauled up in front of judges so they can see the wrong they do to other people.
I lost one small claim back in 1984, that is why I always take after sale services seriously ever since.
 

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Hey. Who knows. Maybe you weren't 'wrong'. Maybe shouting was just the vehicle to get the point over in the least time. I don't know. Sometimes shouting is a perfectly good way to communicate to somebody. Some people it's the only way to get a message through to them. I don't know in your case. Just putting it out there.
The only time, looking back in hindsight, I possibly deserved to be shouted at was when I was working at Sainsbury's as a PT student job in the 80s and Mr Pratt (I kid you not!) the store manager shouted at me across the shop floor to get my arse out of the frozen peas - at the time I thought it was a perfectly adequate solution to cool down on a particularly hot day. Looking back I think we student workers bought out the best and the worst in the managers, and was a useful induction into the workplace.
 

RossG

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Bullying to me is one of those non-events. At school I was bullied for ages by one kid in particular, in the end I had enough...I unhooked a fire extinguisher off of the wall in a hallway and smashed his head in with it. It made a right mess on the floor, water & foam everywhere, the kid ? never bothered me again. Odd thing was the teachers congratulated me for it saying I had stood up for myself well !

Many years ago my daughter came home from school really upset, she'd done something to irritate her teacher so while she was standing against a wall he had thrown a ball hard at it to frighten her as if to say it will be you next time.
My partner & myself shot round to the school and waylaid the teacher in his classroom before he left. We tore him off a strip and told him he couldn't threaten our kid and get away with it.
He argued his case saying my kid had given him grief so he'd given her a shock to wake her up, in the end it was sorted to a fashion and we left.
I however was not finished with him and on the way out I made an excuse to my partner telling her I'd forgotten something. She carried on out and I dashed back to the classroom where the teacher was, I got hold of him grabbing him by the arm and said " if you go anywhere near my daughter again I'll come after you and beat the daylights out of you" then I smiled at him and said "you do understand don't you".
He look petrified you could see the fear on his face he was shaking as my dad used to say ' like a dog at **'
Her retired a few weeks later. Bullies ha...come on then I'm waiting :D
 

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Sounds like he was a bit of an idiot though.

What was his attitude like when he handed you the keys - was he apologetic?
he was apologetic but all I saw was the cost of repair.
 

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Lin Wood confirms that they have seized the Scytl servers and they show that Trump got 80,000,000 votes. There's an explanation about how the Dominion machines work 9:00 to 12:00. Statement about servers being seized at 24:20. what the guy says at 42:20 about the vaccine is quite interesting too. Anyone want to check to see if it's true.
 
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Lin Wood confirms that they have seized the Scytl servers and they show that Trump got 80,000,000 votes. There's an explanation about how the Dominion machines work 9:00 to 12:00. Statement about servers being seized at 24:20.
That’s a lot of votes. Has Trump won now?
 
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OxygenJames

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Lin Wood confirms that they have seized the Scytl servers and they show that Trump got 80,000,000 votes. There's an explanation about how the Dominion machines work 9:00 to 12:00. Statement about servers being seized at 24:20. what the guy says at 42:20 about the vaccine is quite interesting too. Anyone want to check to see if it's true.
So vfr - do you think Trump will win?
 
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