Brexit, for once some facts.
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Do you remember 18 months ago the Austrian Ibizagate scandal, where two members of the Freedom party were videoed doing what appeared to be dodgy deals. According to this, all is not what it seemed:
www.thegatewaypundit.com
“Biggest Scandal in Europe since WW II” - Ibizagate: How Soros Journalists Brought Down the Austrian Government | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
by Collin McMahon in Europe for The Gateway Pundit A year ago, a leaked video seeming to show the head of the right-wing Austrian Freedom Party Heinz Christian Strache conspiring with Russians to take over the top local tabloid brought down the center-right government.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
if you are looking for Russian interference, the story of how H. Clinton's emails were found on the laptop of Clinton's assistant's estranged husband is a good example.
Mike Pompeo will lose his job soon, that's pretty much guaranteed, H. Clinton prosecuted? Unlikely.
I don’t know why they are trying to keep the hospitality industry on life support. It’s dead and it isn’t going to come back to life until Coronavirus is finished. Just shut it down and let it go. People will spend the money elsewhere. If demand returns in the future, new hospitality outlets will spring up.
Er no it said
"It could find no evidence"
Are you seriously accepting that they too THREE YEARS to find nothing?
Three years is ample time not merely to bury evidence, but build a clock of flats over the cemetery where you buried it.
And remember the "Russian report"
Same MO don't look , or rather LOOK WHERE YOU ARE TOLD TO.
And of course there is the question of why was so much paid by the leave campaign to these people, Cambridge Analytica, a company the offered as a service not merely to motivate voters in the way desired, but to suppress others into not voting?
And leave invested huge sums with then and got
nothing in return?Come off it.
You have confirmed one thing
You are gullible
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And of course all the funds given to the Conservative party are all charitable donations.
You really are funny aren't you?
Strange how much effort has been taken to smokescreen the subject while money was coming in from Russia into the Conservative coffers.
Co-incidence of course.
And of course the gloating remarks of the Russian ambassador
"We have Britain down, it won't get back up for a long time"
And here we have Oxygen James, the original Brexit fan back on imagining nothing happened, Investigators failed to find any evidence, because they were told where not to look?
All great fun, and glory be he's still optimistic enough to believe in Brexit.
And it's going swimmingly, isn't it? with the Brexiteers declaring a project fear situation far worse than the one he scoffed at!
Great to have him back by the way, I need a chuckle
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Look on the bright side Patel will no doubt claim there has been a fall in public drunk and disorderly offences to match her previous shoplifting claim.
And that was the first declared advantage of Brexit!
Ok, let me try to put this in conservative. Humanitarian consideration aside, it means a lot of otherwise hard working citizens become destitute, have to go on benefit. Which can become a one way street. And stop consuming. Which trigger further collapse of regional economies. And a domino effect with more large insolvencies like Edinburgh wool mill. And further job losses (21k at EWM). And the chain reaction continue. Somewhere along the line your tenants lose their livelihood.
People will spend the money they have borrowed somewhere. If they can’t do it in the pub, they will spend it elsewhere, and another sector will emerge or an existing one will expand. Boozing, socialising, pubs and Coronavirus do no mix. It’s a formula that is now dead. We may as well forget it, or not complain when the hospitals are full and we are doing 1000+ a day again for an indefinite period. It’s a simple choice.
I watched an interesting discussion on BBC News 'Global Questions' this afternoon. It's about Covid.
On one side is Prof Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University defending herd immunity, signatory of the Barrington declaration, and on the other side, Dr Soumya Swaminathan, Chief Scientist of the WHO.
It is interesting that WHO is neutral on the subject of lockdown. Apparently, it's a local decision, WHO does not recommend it. WHO is against herd immunity.
On one side is Prof Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University defending herd immunity, signatory of the Barrington declaration, and on the other side, Dr Soumya Swaminathan, Chief Scientist of the WHO.
It is interesting that WHO is neutral on the subject of lockdown. Apparently, it's a local decision, WHO does not recommend it. WHO is against herd immunity.
BS should be pleased that Swaminathan (WHO) suggests that we should prioritise education and deprioritise pubs and restaurants. She did not say 'shut them down immediately' though.
Exactly the same as my stance has always been, not believing in herd immunity while against compulsory blanket measures by a central authority. Decide all preventative measures locally according to local circumstances, incorporating flexibility for individual personal circumstances.
Co-operation, not enforcement.
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That sounds like a scientific way of saying, I haven’t an effing clue what to do, how to deal with it or how to make any recommendations.
May as well get rid of them.
Hospitality is not viable for now. It will become viable again. It's insane to permanently kill of viable long standing businesses because of a temporary cash flow crunch.Well need it and other industries to dig ourselves out of the hole left by covid once we come out of it. The kind of dog eat dog world you propose is typical of brexit thinking. Let's kill established industries, let everyone fend for themselves, let's deskill the population. **** aerospace, car manufacturing. Post brexit once the pound crash properly we can become one massive call centre with tax havens for oligarchs on the side. Very enlightening. But not the kind of society most sentient beings would choose to live in.
They say 'Avoid the 3 Cs: crowded places, closed contact settings and closed and confined spaces'.
The rest is as flecc said, use your common sense.
Oh Dear.. I had not known about EWM.. what will I do now for my pure wool gansais ?.. seriously ,a very old fashioned operation, but I liked their products
the main agreement is sooner or later, we'll have to live with Covid.
The disagreement is what do we do from now until an effective vaccine is produced.
The disagreement is what do we do from now until an effective vaccine is produced.
Look a bit deeper. It owns peacocks and jaeger. Which is not so old and where the jobs are.
Hospitality and tourism will be in trouble for a long time to come. The best that can be done is put operations into mothballs , cut grass, repaint bedrooms and hope for a brighter tomorrow. The staff can be transferred into say contact tracking , hospital orderlies and catering. It was lunacy to encourage people to go out socialising with vouchers,in order to kick-start the industry and the virus.
Our local restaurant cannot have patrons indoor so today they have reconstituted their take home menu service ..and excellent Fish and Chips