Somehow - between the testing fiasco, the next spike, the national and financial implications of another lockdown, the plunging pound and fringe performances by leading lights like hancock, Patel and grayling - I think the next six months of this version of "beyond the fringe" will be much more entertaining than that.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Government gives MPs vote on controversial Brexit bill in Tory rebel compromise
The Government has agreed to a compromise with Tory rebels over the controversial UK Internal Market Bill giving MPs a vote before using powers which would break international law.
They have been invited to share the blame
Amusing that the EU didn't have to do a thing to scupper this latest bluff from the ventriloquist and his blond dummy
The Government has agreed to a compromise with Tory rebels over the controversial UK Internal Market Bill giving MPs a vote before using powers which would break international law.
They have been invited to share the blame
Amusing that the EU didn't have to do a thing to scupper this latest bluff from the ventriloquist and his blond dummy
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The Government will do "everything in its power" to prevent a second national lockdown.
As Les Dawson once remarked That makes me as confident as a Turkey sitting on a pile of packets of Paxo listening to Christmas carols"
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The Government will do "everything in its power" to prevent a second national lockdown.
As Les Dawson once remarked That makes me as confident as a Turkey sitting on a pile of packets of Paxo listening to Christmas carols"
Ex-Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has landed a £100,000 job advising the owner of some of the UK's top ports. He will do 7 hours work per week and this has been approved by Whitehall.
Why would anyone pay this that clown for his advice & knowledge? Maybe he was due to work 40 hours per week in return for a rusty washer, but the owners thought £100 K in return for just 7 hours would limit the damage he will do.
Why would anyone pay this that clown for his advice & knowledge? Maybe he was due to work 40 hours per week in return for a rusty washer, but the owners thought £100 K in return for just 7 hours would limit the damage he will do.
the EU has threatened legal action and this time, it's real.
BJ will have to do a U-turn on this, maybe delay the bill long enough for some deal to be agreed then remove the **** clauses.
It has been proven that the French are breaking international law. They are actively assisting inflatable boats overloaded with migrant to cross the channel. Where is the condemnation?
are you referring to French giving life jackets to immigrants trying to cross the Channel?
if so, what law was broken?
if so, what law was broken?
They are shadowing the inflatables handing out bottled water and life jackets. Once in British waters, they abandon the boats and leave the occupants to chance. Under the Dublin III Regulation the French should not be doing this. They should process these migrants in France. It’s their responsibility and they aren’t owning it.
The fact that they abandon them in British waters is a clear indication the French are “dumping“ migrants like refuse and breaking international law. The life jackets and water is just PR. This practice by the French is unsurprising given the history and track record of this oily, treacherous and spineless excuse for a nation.
Dublin Regulation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Dublin Regulation (Regulation No. 604/2013; sometimes the Dublin III Regulation; previously the Dublin II Regulation and Dublin Convention) is a European Union (EU) law that determines which EU Member State is responsible for the examination of an application for asylum, submitted by persons seeking international protection under the Geneva Convention and the EU Qualification Directive, within the European Union. It is the cornerstone of the Dublin System, which consists of the Dublin Regulation and the EURODAC Regulation, which establishes a Europe-wide fingerprinting database for unauthorised entrants to the EU. The Dublin Regulation aims to "determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]"[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State.
The regulation allows UK to send back to France those who have already applied for French protection.
France (also any other country) has no obligation to stop migrants to leave and seek refuge in another country.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Dublin Regulation (Regulation No. 604/2013; sometimes the Dublin III Regulation; previously the Dublin II Regulation and Dublin Convention) is a European Union (EU) law that determines which EU Member State is responsible for the examination of an application for asylum, submitted by persons seeking international protection under the Geneva Convention and the EU Qualification Directive, within the European Union. It is the cornerstone of the Dublin System, which consists of the Dublin Regulation and the EURODAC Regulation, which establishes a Europe-wide fingerprinting database for unauthorised entrants to the EU. The Dublin Regulation aims to "determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]"[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State.
The regulation allows UK to send back to France those who have already applied for French protection.
France (also any other country) has no obligation to stop migrants to leave and seek refuge in another country.
Wrong as usual, no international law is being broken is it?
You really need to moderate your language when referring the French nation, their history is certainly no worse than our own, including the shower you voted for in the hope of protecting your wallet.
No, under the agreement they should be processed in France, not sneaked out to sea and dumped like refuse and left to wash up in the shores of another country. This is precisely what the French are doing. You will never accept this because like many on here your DNA is programmed to criticise the U.K. (and there is plenty of material) but to excuse similar behaviour by other nations.
that's your interpretation. All countries signing the Geneva Convention have to examine claims for refuge.
The Dublin III regulations simply make the process more efficient, if one country in the EU is still examining the claim, then other EU countries can send the claimant back to that country.
If the person has not claimed asylum in France or France has already rejected his claim, and makes a new claim in the UK, then UK government has to examine it.
That's why UK only return a small number to France and Spain.
The Dublin III regulations simply make the process more efficient, if one country in the EU is still examining the claim, then other EU countries can send the claimant back to that country.
If the person has not claimed asylum in France or France has already rejected his claim, and makes a new claim in the UK, then UK government has to examine it.
That's why UK only return a small number to France and Spain.
France have a strategy designed and calculated not to process refugee/ asylum claims. We all know that these migrants/ refugees should be claiming in the first safe country they arrive in. That’s international protocol.
The French are by-passing this with their strategy of facilitating people smuggling and colluding with the trafficking gangs to get them across the channel aboard inflatable boats. The French should be protecting these people by preventing them from crossing, not escorting them out of their waters and then dumping them. There is overwhelming evidence this is taking place.
The French are a sneaky, dishonest, back stabbing bunch of cowards. They are not accepting their responsibility under international law, they never have done and they never will do. They sent their own children to Nazi gas chambers in order to curry favour with their new masters when they rolled over last time. Not much has changed.
Or it's a history and track record of a nation famed for it's humanity in even the most difficult circumstances.
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It's a lucky thing conservatives in this country arent xenophobic. God knows, that could have made for something like brexit. Nudge nudge. Seriously, with our sordid colonial history of slavery and exploitation, and the fact that Hitler's decision to invade russia stopped us from becoming his next bunch of eunuchs (as I recall king George sympathised with him) we really dont have even a tiny soap box to get onto when it comes to national shame. At least the French hasn't recently produced a flatulent boris shaped fuckwit that floats international law
As always it's the contacts. He's been transport minister so he has contacts in the ministry and some inside knowledge of its working. It's that which is being paid for, not any skill or ability he has.
It's the chief attraction of politics as a middle life career, the passport to an affluent semi-employed retirement.
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It depends if you consider dumping migrants mid-channel in order to shirk international responsibility “humanity”.
Javid has also landed a lucrative little earner with a bank recently too.