Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Evidence of lethal stupidity on the part of the Government is coming in thick and fast
https://thenantwichnews.co.uk/2020/03/24/nantwich-firm-blasts-government-over-delay-after-offering-5000-ventilators/
Nantwich firm blasts Government over delay after offering 5,000 ventilators
Seven days ago, Direct Access boss Steven Mifsud contacted the Dept of Health with the offer of 5,000 new ventilators. This was followed two days later with a potential 50 million self-test COVID-19 kits.

He said Crewe & Nantwich MP Kieran Mullan also helped to communicate the offer to Sec of State for Health Matt Hancock’s office.

The firm registered on the “ventilator challenge” page on the The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) website.

But five days later, Health bosses still had not made a decision and the supplies were then snapped up by other customers.

Mr Mifsud said: “Time is a luxury that we as a nation do not have.

“This virus does not wait for anyone and every second costs lives.

 

[oyster]

Except for the richer ones who hid in a fridge and the door jammed

I think even he will have second thoughts about diving into refrigerators now. They might be full.

 

[Danidl]

We need a coalition government with engineers, manufacturers, doctors, logistics & procurement experts and military strategists with their (washed) hands on the steering wheel. The idiots in charge at the moment are making it up as they go along. They aren’t up to the task, spin and bullshit won’t work.

Compare and contrast with the Irish situation. We don't really have a Government..what we have is a caretaker cabinet ,so any legislation has to be concensus based. The senior civil service ,including the Chief Medical Officer are calling the shots. The Taoiseach is a trained A&E doctor, and there is a national concensus, the like I have never seen before.

 

[oyster]

Are we now allowed to fly drones around London City Airport and Gatwick North?

After all, they are not now airports...

And are there any protocols for deep cleaning drones? Otherwise they could transmit infection. Whether flown by the police or the public.

 

[flecc]

there is one point that puzzles me about this coronavirus.
If you look at the ratio between the number of mild cases/critical cases, our NHS seems either under reporting or miraculous.

UK active cases: 13,486 - critical: 163 (1%)
Italy active cases: 62,682 - critical: 3,732 (6%)
Spain active cases: 47,059 - critical: 4,165 (8%)
France active cases: 21,482 - critical: 3,787 (15%)

It's the British stiff upper lip.

We don't become critical until things are truly desperate.
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[oyster]

Aha!

As the government will end up owning everything, we can look forward to whole new rounds of privatisation into the future...

 

[flecc]

As the government will end up owning everything, we can look forward to whole new rounds of privatisation into the future...

I wish they'd privatise the national debt.
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[jonathan.agnew]

I’m watching a programme on C4 about Coronavirus. They’ve just shown the Wet Market in China where the virus is thought to have started.

Good grief, the filthy little bastards. They behave like animals. I’m only surprised the dirty ***** haven’t started more pandemics.

Clearly you have not worked in a first world restaurant's kitchen

 

[wheeler]

there is one point that puzzles me about this coronavirus.
If you look at the ratio between the number of mild cases/critical cases, our NHS seems either under reporting or miraculous.

UK active cases: 13,486 - critical: 163 (1%)
Italy active cases: 62,682 - critical: 3,732 (6%)
Spain active cases: 47,059 - critical: 4,165 (8%)
France active cases: 21,482 - critical: 3,787 (15%)

Scotland's Chief Medical Officer stated on Friday that while there are 1000 confirmed cases in Scotland she estimates that 65000 Scots are infected.
It would probably be reasonable to apply a similar 65:1 multiplier to UK figures.

 

[oldgroaner]

If ever there was confirmation large parts of the British people are stupid this is it
from Bloomberg
One Battle Boris Johnson Is Clearly Winning
The U.K. prime minister got a bounce from Brexit, but that is nothing compared to what the virus crisis has given him.
Fully 72% of eligible voters are satisfied with Johnson’s performance as Prime Minister, with 25% dissatisfied. Ninety-one per cent of those currently supporting the Conservatives count themselves as satisfied, along with about half of Labour voters and those voting for other parties and a large majority of undecided voters. Johnson’s government gets similar approval ratings, both overall (73% to 24%) and on its handling of the Coronavirus outbreak (72% to 25%).

Truly there is no hope for a country with so much of the population afflicted in the thinking department.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

If ever there was confirmation large parts of the British people are stupid this is it
from Bloomberg
One Battle Boris Johnson Is Clearly Winning
The U.K. prime minister got a bounce from Brexit, but that is nothing compared to what the virus crisis has given him.
Fully 72% of eligible voters are satisfied with Johnson’s performance as Prime Minister, with 25% dissatisfied. Ninety-one per cent of those currently supporting the Conservatives count themselves as satisfied, along with about half of Labour voters and those voting for other parties and a large majority of undecided voters. Johnson’s government gets similar approval ratings, both overall (73% to 24%) and on its handling of the Coronavirus outbreak (72% to 25%).

Truly there is no hope for a country with so much of the population afflicted in the thinking department.

And amnesic, in a few weeks the completely forgot that he deliberately wanted everyone to be infected en masse

 

[oldgroaner]

This Redwood fella is definitely one of the dimmer politicians hence this
In the Express
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Oh dear, Brussels! Boris has ‘already won first round’ of Brexit talks in EU fishing war
BORIS JOHNSON'S battle with the EU over a new fishing agreement has been halted by the coronavirus crisis but Tory MP John Redwood is confident the UK has already won the first round of Brexit talks.

And how has he done this?
Britain and the EU's determination to deal with the coronavirus crisis has resulted in Brexit talks stalling. However, Brexiteer and Tory MP John Redwood argued Prime Minister Boris Johnson had already taken control of the fishing issue in the Brexit talks. During an interview with Express.co.uk, Mr Redwood insisted the Prime Minister had made clear the UK was not prepared to give fish away in hopes of a better trade deal.

And this passes as some sort of victory?

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Daily Mail
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Police urge Brits to spill the beans on neighbours suspected of breaching coronavirus lockdown: Telephone 'hotline' and online 'snoopers' forum are set up as scores of people still break rules after five days in isolation

And after virus epidemic is over it will be handy for the authorities to continue using to control the public

 

[flecc]

Mr Redwood insisted the Prime Minister had made clear the UK was not prepared to give fish away in hopes of a better trade deal.

We will, our fishermen are doomed to be disappointed.
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[oldgroaner]

The Daily Mail is trying to portray Boris as some sort of hero, and from the readers reaction there is unfortunately a majority of responders who regard as one puts it "criticism of the government is a remainer plot"

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Compare and contrast with the Irish situation. We don't really have a Government..what we have is a caretaker cabinet ,so any legislation has to be concensus based. The senior civil service ,including the Chief Medical Officer are calling the shots. The Taoiseach is a trained A&E doctor, and there is a national concensus, the like I have never seen before.

Your are lucky. I don't think we will be as lucky here in the UK.

At the top, we have people in key roles who are incapable of looking after themselves (Johnson PM, Hancock Health Secretary, Dorries Under Secretary of State for Health & Patient Safety, Whitty Chief Medical Officer). All such massive idiots that they have caught Coronavirus. I know anyone is susceptible, but it is possible to put layers of protection around people and that should have happened. We are now heading into the storm and the Captain and all of his officers are on sick leave.

They clearly have not understood or appreciated how serious this situation is. They have effectively lost February by ******* about. Wankers doesn't even begin to describe them.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Clearly you have not worked in a first world restaurant's kitchen

I've been in a few but didn't notice cages with cats in them stacked on top of cages with fish in, stacked on top of cages containing badgers, which were on top of cages containing something resembling a hedgehog and a cage of bats on top of that, all topped off with dead snakes draped over.

These people are animals themselves and are a global health hazard.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I've been in a few but didn't notice cages with cats in them stacked on top of cages with fish in, stacked on top of cages containing badgers, which were on top of cages containing something resembling a hedgehog and a cage of bats on top of that, all topped off with dead snakes draped over.

These people are animals themselves and are a global health hazard.

to be fair, in our own ways I suspect all of us feel superior. I remember as a wide eyed 20 year old part-time sous chef in London years ago being told to pick up a wiener schnitzel that had slided and rolled with almost deliberate slow conviction over a kitchen floor covered in a veneer of oil and slimy bacterial muck that would put an alien movie to shame and return it to a plate going out to a customer. It's one of those moments that stick in ones memory. I guess were in reality like rats, quite resistant to bacteria (if not viruses).

 

[Danidl]

Your are lucky. I don't think we will be as lucky here in the UK.

At the top, we have people in key roles who are incapable of looking after themselves (Johnson PM, Hancock Health Secretary, Dorries Under Secretary of State for Health & Patient Safety, Whitty Chief Medical Officer). All such massive idiots that they have caught Coronavirus. I know anyone is susceptible, but it is possible to put layers of protection around people and that should have happened. We are now heading into the storm and the Captain and all of his officers are on sick leave.

They clearly have not understood or appreciated how serious this situation is. They have effectively lost February by ******* about. Wankers doesn't even begin to describe them.

Yes we were lucky... And now I am in a quandary. My daughter is currently commuting to a relatively inaccessible place in NI, where she is in the QC lab of a major pharmaceutical company. The train service is scaled back ,but she can get to work on time.. we drop her at local station, 40 minute train and 40 minute walk. But effective Monday, she cannot get back with train restrictions. Up to now it was possible to pick her up 30 minutes away,..we did that for the last two weeks with their modified timetable. now I will have a 1.5 hour commute each way. Whether I am even legal is debatable, as She not I am the essential worker!.

 

[Woosh]

how about giving her your car?