Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Despite posts yesterday highlighting issues of people still visiting the #PeakDistrict despite government guidance, the message is still not getting through.
@DerPolDroneUnit
have been out at beauty spots across the county, and this footage was captured at #CurbarEdge last night.
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It will be a bonanza for online bicycle sales

Just had a thought....

Note: that should stir Woosh from snoozing on his charpoy in the shop! :cool:
 
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Woosh

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Note: that should stir Woosh from snoozing on his charpoy in the shop!
sadly I am self isolating most of the time.
Only go out on the keyboard, except an hour a day walking to the seafront and back.
 

flecc

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...Somewhere north of 1.2 million ,maybe 3 million.
Since the normal death rate is about 0.75 million per year, ,that trebling it or even Six fold increases.. Do you think that is sustainable?.
Do you want to see the NHS on its knees in just 10 days time? 15% of their staff may contract the disease while caring for others plus 10% in self isolation, 4% may die of it.
That's defeatist, not being British neither of you have the Dunkirk Spirit. ;)

We'll sail though this, we managed the black death ok. That killed more than half the population and the period following was one of the best times to live with a big rise in common people's living standards.
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flecc

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Despite posts yesterday highlighting issues of people still visiting the #PeakDistrict despite government guidance, the message is still not getting through.
@DerPolDroneUnit
have been out at beauty spots across the county, and this footage was captured at #CurbarEdge last night.
The police have got this very, very wrong, not uncommon.

If these people walk for exercise or to take the dog out in their town areas, they will often inevitably get very close to all the others doing it, at times unable to be two metres apart.

Driving from their homes enclosed in their cars and then walking isolated in a vast country area as their video shows is very much safer.

Just because they saw one group picnicking together isn't a good reason to vilify all the rest behaving responsibly.
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oldgroaner

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That's defeatist, not being British neither of you have the Dunkirk Spirit. ;)

We'll sail though this, we managed the black death ok. That killed more than half the population and the period following was one of the best times to live with a big rise in common people's living standards.
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Interesting that none of those still alive afterwards complained they hadn't died, and none of those who died did either
Aren't people fickle? after all that there were no complaints?
You can see where Conservative thinking is going this time too.

(with luck no one will hold them responsible) :rolleyes:
 

oyster

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Scientists say toilet water can transmit coronavirus.
Forgot to say don’t drink it
Have the railways finally totally abandoned spray-it-onto-the-tracks-and-workers train toilets?

Had been going to check this morning but since you have posted...

Gastrointestinal symptoms and spread

A rarely mentioned early symptom is gastrointestinal distress. About 10% of cases can start with a couple of days of diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea, or vomiting and then respiratory symptoms develop, said David A. Johnson, chief of gastroenterology at Eastern Virginia Medical School, who has reviewed studies on the new disease. He said this makes sense because the virus first targets a type of cell that lives both in the lungs and in parts of the digestive tract.

There is evidence of viral shedding in feces, he said. That is not proof that virus in the stool is infectious, he said, but is reason to worry that the disease can be transmitted through a fecal-oral route. It’s another argument for good hand hygiene and bathroom cleaning. In a Chinese study, the shedding continued for up to 12 days after people tested negative for the virus, he said.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronanvirus-early-first-symptoms-temple-university-penn-state-20200318.html

Looks like they do still muckspread...

UK Trains Given the Brown Light to Continue Dumping Human Waste on the Tracks

By Gary Cutlack on 04 Nov 2019 at 11:30AM

Several UK rail franchises are sticking with the horrifyingly outdated practise of discharging flushed toilets directly onto the tracks, as efforts to retrofit the national fleet with new rolling stock and/or septic tank facilities have ground to a classic halt.

Therefore you will be advised not to flush the toilet in stations on some trains operated by Abellio's East Midlands Railway franchise for the foreseeable future, as the Department for Transport has given it a new deadline of 2023 to sort out the issue that still affects some trains departing from London St Pancras on the proper grown-up mainline lines. Over the hills on services offered by the West Midlands franchise, a spokesperson said it might have the issue solved by the end of this year, mind, thanks to a mixture of updated carriages and the clever approach of... simply locking the doors of toilets that don't comply.

https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2019/11/uk-train-toilet-waste-dump/
 

oyster

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The police have got this very, very wrong, not uncommon.

If these people walk for exercise or to take the dog out in their town areas, they will often inevitably get very close to all the others doing it, at times unable to be two metres apart.

Driving from their homes enclosed in their cars and then walking isolated in a vast country area as their video shows is very much safer.

Just because they saw one group picnicking together isn't a good reason to vilify all the rest behaving responsibly.
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Many here, in town, go the 6 to 10 miles to a beach on a very regular basis. But the car parks have all been closed. Anyone who still goes now has to park on one of the informal parking spots or passing places. At least with proper car parks people could (to a large extent) use alternate bays.

Even if there is an argument for restricting the distances we can drive, what about people who actually live in these villages? Not all are able to walk even the short distance and rely on their cars.
 
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flecc

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Many here, in town, go the 6 to 10 miles to a beach on a very regular basis. But the car parks have all been closed. Anyone who still goes now has to park on one of the informal parking spots or passing places. At least with proper car parks people could (to a large extent) use alternate bays.

Even if there is an argument for restricting the distances we can drive, what about people who actually live in these villages? Not all are able to walk even the short distance and rely on their cars.
Indeed, I think the National Trust have got it wrong closing all their car parks and denying many towns people isolation and good separation in their large open country spaces.
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oyster

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oyster

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But he only has mild symptoms and is self-isolating so just why was he tested at all?

UK coronavirus live: Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19
 

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Indeed, I think the National Trust have got it wrong closing all their car parks and denying many towns people isolation and good separation in their large open country spaces.
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Yes. A lot of the shutdowns are (over?)reaction to behaviour last weekend with huge disregard of social distancing in many places in parks and in the countryside. I wonder if they were reopened how much behaviour would be different ... I think people are much more serious about this now than they were last Sunday.
 

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