I bet Boris Johnson can’t believe his luck. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a massive celebratory wnak if Long-Bailey wins.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Boris is already losing his grip, and frankly it is only going to get worse, already there are cracks in the ranks of the Conservative party. This man will end up being dumped by his own party.
Boris is after all owned by vested interests, and when he fails to deliver what they want, he's history.
If he had the biggest majority of all time it wouldn't save him.
Enjoy the show.
As in a possible rebellion. (What? Already!)
Johnson faces Tory rebellion after allowing Huawei 5G role
Senior Tories consider trying to force Commons vote on tighter restrictions for Chinese firm
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/29/johnson-faces-tory-rebellion-over-huawei-5g-plans-for-britain
And suppose Tory parrty turn on the bloke who gave them a resounding victory.
A) Chances are slim
and
B) So what.
As it stands Labour have absolutely no chance of approaching being a likely challenger. Even if Starmer gets leadership they still have a long up hill battle to be even in with a chance in 5 years, let alone 3.
Its like grumbling at Mourinho when alternative is Graham Norton.
To oust Tories no matter what happens country needs an alternative. We haven't got one now and wont have in 3, 5 or 8 years... So they can do as they like.
The only chance country has of replacing Tories is if Labour come to their senses and move well to right, get rid of Corbyn, momentum, Unite, and RLB, reduce McCluskey's sway and put somebody like Starmer in charge. Oh and they better hurry up. Boris will call an election in 3 years? Labour will still be fighting referendum.
And Boris is loosing nothing. He, s as popular as he, s always been, but its irrelevant anyway. So what if PM is unpopular. Thats normal.
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Only an idiot regards leaving the Eu as a victory, it is a major defeat for all of us
Only the first of many problems, imagine what will happen if the public become annoyed for some reason, the Tory politicians will turn on Boris like rabid dogs.
Sort of biting the hand that feeds them? You, ve missed the point of how popular Boris is with public and more so for those he, s just guaranteed extremely profitable employment for next 8 years. Like Michael Cane said,
he could bugar the bursar and still be popular. (well sort of said)
For goodness sake OG, he, s just given Tory faithful and 80 seat majority when they were expecting a split parliament or at best a 20 majority. In their eyes he can walk on water.
Yes, there are hundreds of what ifs but for each one there is a so what.
Tell me a government that has been brought down with an 80 seat majority???
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Strange that more of the public didn't vote for him than did, and popularity is a very transient thing, at the first sign of failure he's in trouble, Gove will knife him.
Remember I said that.
Little itches become major irritations, like this one.
British fishermen fear they won't get what they voted for after Brexit
for a UK fishing industry hoping Brexit will herald a new golden age, there are fears the government will "sell them down the river" in the coming trade negotiations.
Fishing waters and quotas - who gets what - are likely to feature early in the talks, which aim to pull together, over the next 12 months, a comprehensive trade deal on the UK's future relationship with the EU.
The apprehension of the industry is intense because it believes it was used as a bargaining chip when Britain originally joined the European Economic Community (EEC) in 1973.
British fishermen fear they won't get what they voted for after Brexit
for a UK fishing industry hoping Brexit will herald a new golden age, there are fears the government will "sell them down the river" in the coming trade negotiations.
Fishing waters and quotas - who gets what - are likely to feature early in the talks, which aim to pull together, over the next 12 months, a comprehensive trade deal on the UK's future relationship with the EU.
The apprehension of the industry is intense because it believes it was used as a bargaining chip when Britain originally joined the European Economic Community (EEC) in 1973.
they should outlaw the resale of fishing quotas.
If left to fishermen to police themselves, the technology to catch them is so cheap compared to the price the fish fetch, there won't be any fish left within a generation.
And to think the papers ranted on about that "Old Trot" wanting to Nationalise things!
Who gets the blame for Nationalising Northern rail?
Reaction if the press
Sweet nothing
Who gets the blame for Nationalising Northern rail?
Reaction if the press
Sweet nothing
That's why there was an EU agreement, now the only thing protecting fish stocks is we lack the boats to annihilate them as we did before. And that was why the fishing quotas were sold by the fishing fleet owners.
They still build inshore fishing boats in various places, at the moment selling them into the EU in Whitby and some for local owners, next launch from Parkol Engineering will be "Fruitful Bough" on April 4th.
Truth is it's a slow process and there are few remaining yards, ironically if we want boats the best place to buy them will be the EU!
So what.Strange that more of the public didn't vote for him than did, and popularity is a very transient thing, at the first sign of failure he's in trouble, Gove will knife him.
Remember I said that.
The last government to be brought down was Callaghan. They got power in 1974 with a majority of 3...Yes 3.
The winter of discontent led to a vote of no confidence, which labour lost be a single vote.
Our present Tories could make us endure another 3 day week, strikes and riots on streets and would still win any confidence votes, even if opposition got as far as pushing for one. (A certain Margaret Thatcher helped that happen)
Now look at our current situation. Boris with his 80 seat majority, and Labour in complete and utter disarray. Tories almost won in 74...(Labour majority 3!!!)
You are dreaming OG thinking there is remotest chance of Tories not seeing out this term. Go see a bookie, you, d get thousand to one minimum.
Tories are in power for minimum 5 years, could easily be 8.Could be permanent.
And then what will happen? Another Tory...Strange that more of the public didn't vote for him than did, and popularity is a very transient thing, at the first sign of failure he's in trouble, Gove will knife him.
Remember I said that.
Besides as I said Gove ain't going to do a thing. And even if he does... So what?
Tories in power, UK out EU, Labour doing feck all about any of it.
Whats your point OG?
Yes, we know you dont like Boris Brexit or Tories. Sort of tough sch! te, You, ve got Labour to thank for all three and Labour to thank for us having more of same for at least 8 years.
Tories could be in power for 10 years and everyone knows that, the `Opposition` is a joke, they`ve now made inroads into northern constituences and they will pay most attention to those in the incoming years and cement their place there
Anyhow on to the architect of our Independence Day!
Arise Sir Nigel
Brexit has sparked the biggest revolution in Britain since the English Reformation, Nigel Farage said in his final press conference in Brussels before the UK leaves the European Union.
“At 11pm on January 31, 2020, we leave the EU and we pass the point of no return,” the Brexit Party leader said in the European Parliament.
“What it means for us constitutionally, what it means for us for our place in the world, it is probably the most important thing since Henry VIII took us out of the Church of Rome,” he said.
Anyhow on to the architect of our Independence Day!
Arise Sir Nigel
Brexit has sparked the biggest revolution in Britain since the English Reformation, Nigel Farage said in his final press conference in Brussels before the UK leaves the European Union.
“At 11pm on January 31, 2020, we leave the EU and we pass the point of no return,” the Brexit Party leader said in the European Parliament.
“What it means for us constitutionally, what it means for us for our place in the world, it is probably the most important thing since Henry VIII took us out of the Church of Rome,” he said.
Sorry OG its fact. Look it up on google.
Labour entered office with a majority of 3, put country on 3 day week, left bins unemptied for months, almost had a general strike, pushed unemployment up to a record for the day and still only lost vote of confidence by a single vote. Please explain how that is nonesense?
The analogy is to dispel your stupid notion that Boris/Tories with their 80 majority and Labour having commited arri kari, will somehow not be in power for next 8 years. Put your money where your mouth is. I, ll put £100 on it. (Tories in power for 5 years or more)You wont take bet but you'll continue the BS about Boris/Tories.
You, ll just come back with a stupid platitude.
How long do you think
A) Boris will be in no 10?
B)Tories will be in power?
Come on OG.
You, ve said I, m talking BS and nonesense.(as you and Flecc both did when I said Corbyn's strategy was doomed months ago) So answer the questions. You darent. You are just noise, whining and moaning with no real insight, clarity or thought.
All you are doing is reposting specific negative points about Boris. Its utterly pointless. Boris is going nowhere neither are Tories for even longer.
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Final EU speech today - notable the old Irish hag at the end full of vitriol - another sore loser.
Maraid is worth 100 of your Farages . She is Irish, She is intelligent ,and works with people.
.. and obviously an ignorant slob.... hopefully she will have the good grace to apologise for this racist outburst