Everybody knows that any soft brexit is bound to be less good than remain in the current deal, so offering a referendum between a soft brexit and remain is like choosing between two diner options on a hospital menu.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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But of course the Leave campaign insisted there was no reason or possibility of leaving the EU without remaining in Customs union and market, a no deal Brexit was never touted by them, it is a later invention.
No deal was not on the menu back then, was it?
It was going to be the "easiest deal in the world" and "only take a phone call to the German car manufacturers"
Oh dear Boris, someone's past keeps surfacing
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-book-jews-control-media-general-election-a9239346.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-book-jews-control-media-general-election-a9239346.html
More Tory care for the public
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/man-born-without-arms-legs-21046360
Man born without arms or legs ordered to prove he can't work three times in a year
EXCLUSIVE Kevin Donnellon has had to fill in three 'fit to work' questionnaires for the Department of Work and Pensions this year - despite having been born without limbs due to thalidomide
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/man-born-without-arms-legs-21046360
Man born without arms or legs ordered to prove he can't work three times in a year
EXCLUSIVE Kevin Donnellon has had to fill in three 'fit to work' questionnaires for the Department of Work and Pensions this year - despite having been born without limbs due to thalidomide
The Tory bots are trying to discredit the story of the little boy on the floor
And this
Unfortunately for them the Hospital confirmed the story
And this
Unfortunately for them the Hospital confirmed the story
Oh Dear now this
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/10/thousands-of-patients-die-waiting-for-beds-in-hospitals-study
Thousands of patients die waiting for beds in hospitals – study
Doctors’ report finds 5,449 deaths since 2016 followed delayed admission to A&E
Disgraceful and tragic
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/10/thousands-of-patients-die-waiting-for-beds-in-hospitals-study
Thousands of patients die waiting for beds in hospitals – study
Doctors’ report finds 5,449 deaths since 2016 followed delayed admission to A&E
Disgraceful and tragic
Lies, Johnson, lies, Mail on Sunday, lies, Johnson, lies, Mail,...
We’ve taken on the Mail on Sunday and won. But the newspaper regulator won’t correct the story till after the election
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour
We’ve taken on the Mail on Sunday and won. But the newspaper regulator won’t correct the story till after the election
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour
You might feel they should know that, but they don't. Everything is worse than Remain in the Remainer's world, so Corbyn's strategy can get the Remain vote and they are now the majority.
Conversely, Remain is worse than any way of leaving in the Leaver's world. But they are now slightly the minority and many of them are fed up with the whole issue and feel let down that the Leave vote wasn't honoured immediately. The result is that a few of those who voted Leave will go for the Remain option to end the issue, but many of the rest much more likely simply not bother to vote. I foresee a quite low turnout for this Election, and it's the Leavers who are the most disillusioned.
Traditionally low turnouts harm Labour the most, but the above could change that to a fair degree. A Labour win, no, but an alliance getting into government is possible.
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Bojo does not care that he is believed or not, he relies entirely on the brexit votes as it's clear that only the tories will deliver brexit, nobody else.
The 10% tory's lead in the polls begin to shrink quickly since yesterday.
I reckon we'll be in the range of a hung parliament.
ICM/Reuters survey:
Con: 42
Lab: 36
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I hope it’s a hung Parliament. Totally paralysis. That way the damage they can inflict will be limited.
The level of lying is totally sickening. That lie above a Labour activist punching that **** Hancock’s aid is vile. Cynically calculated to divert attention from what is happening in A&E departments under the Conservatives.
Why isn’t this lying major news? The level of lying is the biggest and most important political issue. It dwarfs Brexit, The NHS, everything.
tories issue veiled threats at the BBC's funding model.
Ch4 received similar threats.
About time too. Why should we pay for what's basically a propaganda channel. This organisation is toxic, racist, unfair and stirs up hatred and outrage. The sooner it goes, the better. I have stopped watching all TV, and in a couple of weeks, I will never pay my licence fee again.
If they want to do all that, like CNN, ITV and Sky (UK), I don't have a problem with them doing it, but I shouldn't be forced to pay.
While I'm on the subject, have a look at what Sky News (UK) says about Boris and Trump, then look at Sky News Australia, where everything they say is diametrically opposite. Weird that!
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Totally agree with you
Rupert Murdoch has always insisted he maintains editorial independence. Many don't believe him, but there's often evidence of it like the above.
Of course editors like to appeal to their local market to maintain the reading/viewing public on which their job depends, so that dictates their bias.
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American owned media (youtube/google, fb/instagram, amazon alexa) are even sneakier. They are echo chambers for much worse.
This botched false flag operation could cost Boris the election
In the Guardian
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A medical secretary has claimed her Facebook account was hacked after it was used to post false information claiming that a photograph of an ill boy on the floor at Leeds General Infirmary was staged for political purposes.
The woman denied posting the allegation that four-year-old Jack Willment-Barr’s mother placed him on the floor specifically to take the picture which became symbolic of the NHS’s troubles after it appeared on the front page of Monday’s Daily Mirror.
“I was hacked. I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats. “I’ve had to delete everything as I have had death threats to myself and my children.”
The original viral post on the medical secretary’s Facebook account said “I am a nurse myself” and cited a “good friend of mine” at Leeds General.
It claimed the boy in the photo “was in fact put there by his mother who then took photos on her mobile phone and then uploaded it to media outlets”. The post dismissed the pictures of the ill boy as “another Momentum propaganda story”, despite the fact the hospital had already apologised for his treatment.
In the Guardian
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A medical secretary has claimed her Facebook account was hacked after it was used to post false information claiming that a photograph of an ill boy on the floor at Leeds General Infirmary was staged for political purposes.
The woman denied posting the allegation that four-year-old Jack Willment-Barr’s mother placed him on the floor specifically to take the picture which became symbolic of the NHS’s troubles after it appeared on the front page of Monday’s Daily Mirror.
“I was hacked. I am not a nurse and I certainly don’t know anyone in Leeds,” said the woman, whose name the Guardian is withholding because she says she has received death threats. “I’ve had to delete everything as I have had death threats to myself and my children.”
The original viral post on the medical secretary’s Facebook account said “I am a nurse myself” and cited a “good friend of mine” at Leeds General.
It claimed the boy in the photo “was in fact put there by his mother who then took photos on her mobile phone and then uploaded it to media outlets”. The post dismissed the pictures of the ill boy as “another Momentum propaganda story”, despite the fact the hospital had already apologised for his treatment.
Of course the eagle-eyed amongst you might have noticed that the kid is lying on his coat, and it's what looks like his mother's coat on top of him, not a hospital blanket. Do you think that the hospital staff found his coat somewhere, put it on the ground and told the kid to lie on it?The Tory bots are trying to discredit the story of the little boy on the floor
And this
Unfortunately for them the Hospital confirmed the story
It doesn't take a genius to figure out how the kid ended up lying on his coat, then mum takes a photo and sends it to the press.
Come on, I was starting to credit you with some intelligence. Maybe it was just a lapse in concentration because you're enraged by all the fake news you indulge yourself in.
There's a nice analysis of the situation by this independent new channel, though they missed the fact that he was lying on his coat.
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That is all very confusing. When a child or anyone is admitted to A&E a record is made of the time,and the person who made the record. Now is it the case that that child was recorded as being present hours earlier or not. Whether the Hospital apologised or not is irrelevant ..the spokesperson might not be in possession of the facts.
If this was a staged event, it was bad, ..in that obviously there was insufficent capacity
If it was a real event and the Mother was required to use her coat etc, it was worse
And if it was then falsely misrepresented,by hackers it is far far worse. ..and is criminal. A fraud
Just found out that our GE ballot papers are magnolia. Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire get salmon colour. Good to know these important details.
I find that the account by BBC staff is believable:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50713236
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Jack was taken to his GP last Tuesday, with vomiting, diarrhoea, coughing and a fever. He had been ill for six days with what the GP had thought was a virus, but as he had not improved he was taken by ambulance to the accident and emergency unit of LGI.
His mum told The Mirror: "He kept asking to lay down. He was without a bed for four-and-a-half hours.
"He needed to go to sleep and he needed to lay down. He started falling asleep and he ended up going to sleep on a pile of coats.
"There was no bed for him in A&E and there was no bed for him on the ward, so he just had to sleep on the floor."
After his wait in the treatment room, Jack was eventually moved to a ward where he waited for five hours on a trolley before a bed was found.
He was later diagnosed with flu and tonsillitis, and discharged home the next day.
His mum praised medical staff but said: "I am frustrated about the system and the lack of beds, which I am presuming is due to a lack of funding to the NHS to deliver the services that are required."
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Useless GP.
How would you react if he were you son?