Brexit, for once some facts.
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I’ll confess that I haven’t read all of the article that you link to, but I do understand what you are trying to convey.
I know that the terms, idiot, cretin, spastic and retarded are all official medical conditions and at one time those were the proper names to use. They were not classed as insults like they are today.
Because people use these terms as insults, especially when a person does something clumsy or seemingly stupid, they have lost their true meaning. For example, when at school, if a mate tripped over or missed an easy ball with a cricket bat, they’d get called a spaz. If they failed to grasp something blindingly obvious, they’d be a retard, an idiot or a cretin etc. I’m not justifying it, I’m just saying what happens as language evolves.
As those words became increasingly used as insults, that’s exactly what people think of them as being and the actual medical meaning is lost and so the word can’t be used anymore. As a consequence, we try to be clever and we invent new and fancy terms such as Special Needs. Guess what?
I think we can get too bogged down with what we can, can’t, should or shouldn’t say. I say let Gerald call our MPs cretins, he’s not having a go at or insulting proper cretins, he’s just expressing his contempt for our MPs and their lack of honesty & ability using more modern language. Cretins no longer exist, they are known as something else now.
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I saw it on the 10 o’clock news. It was a longer version of the article that I saw earlier this afternoon.
You would have seen the one piece I did.
It wasn’t as good or powerful as I had less time to edit it. The story was the same though.
Sooner or later Gove was bound (accidentally) to tell the truth
The Telegraph has a talent for missing the blindingly obvious
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The EU will not browbeat us into breaking up the United Kingdom.
They have their eyes on Northern Ireland. Indeed it won't, but Brexit is very likely to create an unstoppable urge for Scotland to seek independence.
Frankly the only reason it is still part of the union is because losing membership of the EU was used as a threat.
On a similar theme the Express runs this
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Juncker in scathing Brexit attack on Boris as he warns no deal will cause 'collapse' of UK
JEAN-CLAUDE JUNCKER has said a no deal Brexit will lead to the “collapse” of the United Kingdom - warned Boris Johnson would be to blame.
Playing the time served trick of "Lets unite against threats from Johnny foreigners" and even having the Brass to blame the the EU?
The Murdoch press are reading the 1930's German Papers for ideas.
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The EU will not browbeat us into breaking up the United Kingdom.
They have their eyes on Northern Ireland. Indeed it won't, but Brexit is very likely to create an unstoppable urge for Scotland to seek independence.
Frankly the only reason it is still part of the union is because losing membership of the EU was used as a threat.
On a similar theme the Express runs this
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Juncker in scathing Brexit attack on Boris as he warns no deal will cause 'collapse' of UK
JEAN-CLAUDE JUNCKER has said a no deal Brexit will lead to the “collapse” of the United Kingdom - warned Boris Johnson would be to blame.
Playing the time served trick of "Lets unite against threats from Johnny foreigners" and even having the Brass to blame the the EU?
The Murdoch press are reading the 1930's German Papers for ideas.
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Cretins do exist. Unfortunately, just not the most severe cases in the west. They tend to be in the third word countries.
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Low thyroid hormone continues to affect foetuses and result in poor outcomes. For example, some breech births appear to be due to thyroid, and some miscarriages.
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Yes of course, as you say, cretins do exist. What I meant by my statement that they don’t was that they are more commonly known by a different term now. This being due to the word cretin being hijacked and used as an insult.
You really do need to read what was written... I had never mentioned the word Russian.
There’s a problem. What is written isn’t clear. Your posts contain too many unnecessary words and this has a tendency to confuse you and the reader. It makes you look like a bloody fool. Cut it out.
interesting point of view:
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What is interesting is not so much the connections between capital and the Tory party but their increasing disconnection. Today much of the capital in Britain is not British and not linked to the Conservative party – where for most of the 20th century things looked very different.
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Brexit is the political project of the hard right within the Conservative party, and not its capitalist backers. In fact, these forces were able to take over the party in part because it was no longer stabilised by a powerful organic connection to capital, either nationally or locally.
www.theguardian.com
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What is interesting is not so much the connections between capital and the Tory party but their increasing disconnection. Today much of the capital in Britain is not British and not linked to the Conservative party – where for most of the 20th century things looked very different.
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Brexit is the political project of the hard right within the Conservative party, and not its capitalist backers. In fact, these forces were able to take over the party in part because it was no longer stabilised by a powerful organic connection to capital, either nationally or locally.
Brexit is a necessary crisis – it reveals Britain’s true place in the world | David Edgerton
A determined ignorance of the dynamics of global capitalism is bringing about a long-overdue audit of British realities, says the academic David Edgerton
www.theguardian.com
Think of your previous post as having passed from the jurisdiction of your pc to the jurisdiction of the forum. You do not have any further control or say over it (and it wont be extradited back to you).
A complicated way of saying the Conservatives are not interested in governing this country with regard to it's future prosperity, they are simply asset strippers for forces unseen and hostile.interesting point of view:
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What is interesting is not so much the connections between capital and the Tory party but their increasing disconnection. Today much of the capital in Britain is not British and not linked to the Conservative party – where for most of the 20th century things looked very different.
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Brexit is the political project of the hard right within the Conservative party, and not its capitalist backers. In fact, these forces were able to take over the party in part because it was no longer stabilised by a powerful organic connection to capital, either nationally or locally.
Brexit is a necessary crisis – it reveals Britain’s true place in the world | David Edgerton
A determined ignorance of the dynamics of global capitalism is bringing about a long-overdue audit of British realities, says the academic David Edgerton
This is disguised by using them supporting "Willy De Peepol" as their guiding principle.
They are in fact nothing more or less than gangsters working for both dodgy financiers and foreign powers.
The article suggests this is in some way a necessary part of a process of political revision.
It is not, simply a deliberate descent into chaos, from which there is no clear exit path planned or obvious.
It's about as productive as Prohibition was in the United States.