Brexit, for once some facts.

[Fingers]

Afraid not, mine is a genuine 42.7%.

I have the advantage since I always go into the cycling forums first and help in three ways there as necessary. I've been doing that for 13 years and have also written a number of the site's permanent articles. Even quite old posts of mine get Likes as people trawl for answers to a problem.

Coming into this thread is an afterthought to that activity, one that I can jack in at any time.
.

Yeah but if you only include this thread then I am the clear leader. That's all I was saying. You are on less than 20%.

I can quit too. l. I just get hayfever and colds a lot.

I'm not demanding respect that wouldn't be cool but some acknowledgement would be respectful.

 

[Fingers]

And you were wrong.

Again

 

[Danidl]

In reference to the claim that the UK is already out, by breaching the terms of the EU extension...

I disagree with the interpretation as put by the Spectator on the importance of the last paragraph.

The decision to allow the UK remain as full member is totally unequivocal until October ..subject to a single condition

The conditionality of holding the EU Elections has been referred to in the preceding text a number of times. That is a condition.

.A decision to ratify the Withdrawal Agreement, by the due date, . is not a condition . It would have rendered the entire raison d'etre of the extension moot. Because it would automatically have moved the process into the next phase,and there would no longer be an extension,but the transition phase.
The EU draftpersons were ensuring that there would be no ambiguity in the status of the UK post 23 May

 

[Woosh]

if anyone is ntefested by this story:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32019D0584&from=PT

It read:

Article 2
This decision shall enter into force on the day of its adoption.
This decision shall cease to apply on 31 May 2019 in the event that the United Kingdom has not held elections to the European Parliament in accordance with applicable Union law and has not ratified the Withdrawal Agreement
by 22 May 2019.


the author found interpreted the underlined words can be understood as or because of the construct of the whole sentence.

 

[oldgroaner]

If the contents of the article I link to in the above post are correct (I don't see why they would not be). Why have MPs not tried to do something about this? Do they not know its going on? Or are they deliberately turning a blind eye to it, because of all the money it brings into London?

This as we have pointed out is the real motivation for Brexit that makes the Leave campaigners so keen to ruin the rest of us.

Tax dodging
It is, was and always will be
The greatest mugging of a nation in History

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Telegraph
Lord Nigel speaks
"
The sooner we leave the unreformable and appallingly undemocratic EU, the better

Nigel Farage
He should have added,
"why not raise some dodgy funds and buy your own personal political party like me? I have one man one vote!

Plenty of mugs will vote for a dictator, especially one who owns a company pretending to be a democratic party

This is the BXp organisational chart with Nigel in command

And for your amusement I found a version illustrating the Swiss view of the present EU

Soon to be missing ourselves down on the ground below

 

[50Hertz]

Apparently Borisis due to reveal his Criminal Policy very soon. Very candid of him.

 

[flecc]

Yeah but if you only include this thread then I am the clear leader. That's all I was saying. You are on less than 20%.

True, indeed I doubt I'm anywhere near 20% in this thread, going many days without any posts here.

My only notable contribution was in starting it. There's probably a place waiting in hell for me for doing that.
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[flecc]

And you were wrong.

Again

Which makes you wrong, since as you've said, I'm always right.
.

 

[oldgroaner]

True, indeed I doubt I'm anywhere near 20% in this thread, going many days without any posts here.

My only notable contribution was in starting it. There's probably a place waiting in hell for me for doing that.
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Cheer up flecc remember the old saying

"Hell is like an English Pub on a winter night
You can't get near to the fire for Clergy"

 

[oldgroaner]

Apparently Borisis due to reveal his Criminal Policy very soon. Very candid of him.

Didn't he do that in the campaign before the referendum?

 

[oldgroaner]

And you were wrong.

Again

Who was?

 

[oldgroaner]

Which makes you wrong, since as you've said, I'm always right.
.

Don't confuse him further flecc,
he can manage that without any help, it's his trademark

 

[oldgroaner]

This as we have pointed out is the real motivation for Brexit that makes the Leave campaigners so keen to ruin the rest of us.

Tax dodging
It is, was and always will be
The greatest mugging of a nation in History

Ayup! Zlatan manages a disagree, may I enquire what the real reason for the leave campaign support for Brexit was then?

 

[oldgroaner]

From the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/05/johnson-pledges-to-make-all-immigrants-learn-english?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet
Johnson pledges to make all immigrants learn English

Tory leadership contender says English is not first language in ‘too many parts of our country’

Make? and what else will he "make" them do? wear ethnicity badges perhaps?
Here is a recent shot of the Dear Leader

First language is usually regarded as the language you are Born into.

 

[oyster]

From the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/05/johnson-pledges-to-make-all-immigrants-learn-english?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet
Johnson pledges to make all immigrants learn English

Tory leadership contender says English is not first language in ‘too many parts of our country’

Make? and what else will he "make" them do? wear ethnicity badges perhaps?
Here is a recent shot of the Dear Leader

First language is usually regarded as the language you are Born into.

That will go down really well in "the land of my fathers". (Or, at least, some of it.)

 

[Fingers]

The daily Groaner is weak today.

Not one mention of Hitler.

 

[oldgroaner]

Yeah but if you only include this thread then I am the clear leader. That's all I was saying. You are on less than 20%.

I can quit too. l. I just get hayfever and colds a lot.

I'm not demanding respect that wouldn't be cool but some acknowledgement would be respectful.

Don't worry, you are getting all the recognition and respect you justly deserve...

 

[oldgroaner]

The daily Groaner is weak today.Not one mention of Hitler.

Who groans more than you?Very funny!
My first post in this exchange was
This is a re-run of 1930's Germany, Fascist taking the workers votes

You responded
I take your apology.

I just find it laughable when people invoke the Hitler argument. Reductio ad Hitlerum. Perhaps we should change Godwins Law to Geralds Law as you use it so often?

But you've said sorry so we can move on. Please stop saying it though as it makes you sound silly. Any evidence you have will be taken seriously and I will pass it on to the relevant authorities.

In this instance it will be the Metropolitan police and ultimately Europol. I will also pass it onto contacts I have in the journalism field. I know many are trying to find links to damage Farage and his backers so your information of them being fascists will be gratefully received.

Unless you are lying/don't understand the word/ its nonsense.

You are lying again! it was you who mentioned Hitler, I didn't, and there are other cases I can find where you have put "spin" on my posts
You really must read and comprehend not jump to conclusions in line with your delusions

 

[oldgroaner]

And you were wrong.

Again

What happened to this?
I'm not demanding respect that wouldn't be cool but some acknowledgement would be respectful.

You need to earn respect