United Kingdom = England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland
Vr = Votes to remain in EU
Vl = Votes to leave the EU
If Vl > Vr then United Kingdom exits EU
Feed the following into the above equation
Vl = 52
Vr = 48
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Vr = Votes to remain in EU
Vl = Votes to leave the EU
If Vl > Vr then United Kingdom exits EU
Feed the following into the above equation
Vl = 52
Vr = 48
No sounds right to me, come to think of it, has anyone come up with a good reason for leaving the EU that has even a remote chance of having even the shadow of a hope of making sense by being based on reality?
To which the resounding answer is once again NO.
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Tillson...have you looked up the brands that Unilever sell,across all products its over 100,its almost impossible to shop without buying a Unilever product.
Tesco will have to give in,they are doing very badly at present,and shoppers will say if I cannot get my favourite brands from Tesco I will buy my entire shop from another supermarket.
I think there is probably an element of Unilever punishing the Leave voter,with the thought that 'you voted for Leave,you destroyed the value of the pound,so you can damn well pay for it'.
The Dutch absolutely hate what we are doing to Europe,a country which historically was very pro-British.
As for your comment about price rises,these increases are not due to production costs,they are pretty much 100% about the low value of the pound....any profits that they make in the UK are now worth 18% less when moved back to Holland and changed into Euros. I think there will be another price rise soon and if we have to resort to WTO tariffs another 10% rise.
I was shot down as scaremongering and Osborne/Cameron did a terrible job of presenting Remain but the outcome is as predicted,as I said ultimately the poor will pay for this reckless decision.
I am concerned that this all could get very nasty.
KudosDave
Perhaps you could try factoring in a generation of lies about the EU and the fact that the majority of voters blamed the EU for the misdeeds of the government, and the result would have been very different.
The result of the advisory only referendum proved that people didn't even know what they were voting for, as has been said very often, if we knew it was only advisory we wouldn't have voted.
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They dont need a second referendum,parliament can say that the vote was only advisory and now we have sight of the awful future that Brexit represents it is time for parliament to scrap the whole experiment on the basis that it is not good for our country...that is why Theresa May is trying to keep parliament distant from all dealings with Brexit.
I think in the end it wont be the Remainers who will shout loudest to U turn it will be disaffected Leavers who are now going to be very poor as a result of Brexit and forget Benefits or Pay rises,they wont be bailed out by more income.
The biggest joke is Fox and Davis saying we are going to be the free trade centre of the world,open for business and outwardly looking....from my viewpoint we are going to be an inward looking and very poor country full of internal strife,asking and blaming who got us into this mess,May will follow Gove and Farage and exit stage left,Boris will take us to war with Russia.
KudosDave
I'm sure that's irony. Bizarrely of course also not, from a brexit perspective doctrine. other than giving the world boris, shipman, saville, glitter, etc, there is the pound, which I'm beginning to love as the official opposition.
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I must praise the BBC for their current reporting on the opening of the Court case against the use of royal pregorative to trigger brexit.
from the Guardian today.
Almost everything that Unilever produce can be purchased from an alternative supplier. Their products are fairly standard fodder. I don't like Tesco, but admire what they are doing. The public need to get behind this and boycott Unilever products and inflict as much damage to the company as possible. If they carry on supporting them, they deserve all that they get.
I don't think this is a case of could, it will.
In your opinion. Which does not make it fact.
I love how the phrase, "advisory only" was only conceived post referendum. This reminds me of playing Monopoly with my sister as a child. She would fabricate new rules in order to stave off bankruptcy.
this reminds me of blaming the BoE earlier in this thread for lowering interest rates and it devaluing the pound. it confuses cause and effect. Unilever raising prices is effect, brexit is cause. interest rates being lowered is effect, brexit and sharp reduction in growth forecast as result is cause. Tesco does not give a **** about consumers: it doesn't want to share the cost of higher production with unilever, it wants unilever to shoulder that alone.
No, Unilever raising prices is greed, opportunism is cause.
Products which they produce in the UK have not been subjected to a 14% rise in production costs. Greed greed greed.
This company needs to sustain serious damage, but I suspect apathy will prevail.
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"greed", or profit, and "opportunism" or opportunity, are key elements of a capitalist system. Unilever isn't a registered charity. you didn't really expect them to only and exclusively factor cost into price? Brexit is devaluing the pound and causing rapid inflation/higher prices. Blaming unilever is beyond myopic in not acknowledging that as the big fiasco.
What are you taking? I'd like some please.
How can the fact that their products now cost a lot more, be down to greed?
Please explain your logic.
this
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-13/boe-buys-1-billion-pounds-of-corporate-bonds-in-less-than-month
is international investors offloading sterling assets, fast, and the BoE trying to stem the tide by buying it up. it wont work, Dutch fable about boy with finger in a dyke comes to mind. then (meaning in a month or so) the pound will really go north. getting brexiters to boycott unilever is in the same league as boris running around shouting he will spend money that doesn't exist on the NHS: a misguided "foolish" (I'm trying to be less rude these days) insincere sideshow.
Marmite. Produced in the UK. Labour is now cheaper in the UK. The bulk of the raw material comes from within the UK. Packaging comes from?
That does not add up to a 14% rise. Greed = 14% rise.
Apologies for repeating myself but you obviously missed my previous post.
This price rise does not need to be anything to do with production costs...Unilever have a duty to their shareholders to maintain,preferably increase profits,we by voting Brexit have seen the pound value drop by 18%,when they repatriate those monies into Holland they get 18% less in Euros,these price rises are only to maintain their profits in Euros,there is no element of greed,they are just maintaining profits,there will need to be another rise to keep the status quo.
But we are all Brexiters now,that is what Murdoch and May tells us and whatever the costs and whatever the damage we as closet Remainers are deemed national traitors if we speak out against Brexit.
Most Remainers try to converse on a constructive level but so many Leavers seem to be of the 'You lost ,we won,stop moaning,yah boo!!!'brigade...When everything that Leavers hold dear is no longer affordable to them I bet they will get gold medals in moaning,most of them did not vote to make our country poorer(Hammond quote) or reduce their lifestyle,the 2 weeks in Spain is going to look very expensive next year.
KudosDave